• FiveMacs@lemmy.ca
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      Not pardoning him would piss them off more and gives them zero firepower on the topic…

      Edit: legitimate firepower anyways…they would still claim some bullshit about he’s a bad dad and doesn’t protect his son or some garbage like that.

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        Honestly, there’s a contingent who would dislike him less if he used a pardon to protect his son

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          See those people don’t actually like corruption, they just like winning. If they lose then corruption is bad, if they win then it’s just being clever. So they’d still hate him, probably moreso.

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    I’m sad it’s news when a president/presidential candidate announces something totally reasonable.

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      I’m always disappointed hearing news about Biden. So boring and normal. Where did my emotional rollercoaster of reading the news when Trump was president go?

      Dark brandon better beat that facist dumbass come november though.

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      He probably would’ve announced this anyway, even if politics were much more normal than they are now. The thing is, it wouldn’t have been so newsworthy. It would’ve just been a normal, reassuring statement that we all expected to hear.

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        He probably would’ve announced this anyway, even if politics were much more normal than they are now

        If politics were “more normal than they are now” it wouldn’t have been a statement he would need to make.

        It’s a pretty low bar that a politician shouldn’t be assumed to be abusing their power.

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      honestly the ‘pardon’ ability needs to go away completely. maybe it made sense before, and/or wasnt abused, but now it just seems prepped to be a tool to release your fellow felons in crime.

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        They can be useful for things like spy exchanges, but I do agree the system as it exists is ripe for abuse

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        The point of being able to issue pardons is that Biden should have been pardoning everyone who’s in prison for smoking weed. Too bad Biden’s a little bitch who won’t use the office of president to do much good.

        Vote for him tho

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        The way American politics are going, you need a full reset. There is no power that is not being abused but powers are needed for a government to work

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          What’s the most recent example of “full reset” for a comparable nation with the economic output, military power, or population size similar to America? The USSR? Any examples that are more successful?

          I’m not arguing that change isn’t needed, it is, but what’s realistic. Especially when going up against those with the greatest vested interest in status quo, those brainwashed to rail against what’s in their best interest or the greater good, or those too apathetic to engage with any of it.

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            Democracy was widely regarded as a failed experiment in antiquity up until the French revolution. There are multiple realistic avenues towards a “full reset”, like everyone joining a union and then building new power structures around the existing ones.

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        That’s only if criminals are elected. Biden used the pardon in 2022 and 2023 to pardon many minor weed related offenses.

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          It’s still insane that politicians are involved AT ALL in the justice system.

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            The pardon is a last-ditch effort at justice. I’m fine with it.

            POTUS can only waive off on federal crimes, the states still have hold on their own convictions. And even then, the governor can pardon.

            Even if abused now and again, it’s still good for the broader system.

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        It’s cool if it is a bullshit crime. Like smoking a joint, pardon everyone convicted of that.

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        Clemency is a useful tool, it just needs reform. Some states require it to go through a committee rather than just handing the power to a single official. There are probably other ways to curtail abuse as well.

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    I think this action likely lowers Hunter Biden’s chances of winning the presidency to zero for 2024. Not that Hunter Biden is even running for President, but from everything the GOP say, they certainly think he is.

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    I feel like if the shoe was on the other foot (Don Jr in trouble) Trump is bitch and moan that it was politically motivated and a witch hunt and then pardon him.

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      Just like that moron did with other criminals that should not have been pardoned. BTW now that that piece of shit is a convicted felon, we should start to undo anything he ever touched while in office. All those pardons he did, send them the fuck back to prison. Just like how crooked cops have their previous cases under scrutiny.

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        You realize the office of the US President is involved in important things in the world, and isn’t just a vehicle for revenge against a former President?

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          isn’t just a vehicle for revenge against a former President?

          Trump is the one who needs to learn that lesson

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        Yeah! Time for Afghanistan 2! /j But for real, we can’t just broad brush this thing. While most of it was shit, probably several things were decent things that got through in spite of the administration’s ineptitude.

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      One of the few cronies he didn’t pardon was Cohen, and look how that worked out for him, lol.

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      Feels like he’d only act if was Ivanka or something that would also cause trouble for him. Trump isn’t afraid of dumping anyone

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        Like a real crime boss, Trump never, ever dumps on family. No one else is safe, but the wife and kids are sacrosanct.

        Now that I think on it, the man does indeed seem to have a single moral. How odd I’m just now seeing it.

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    The dude bought a gun while high off his ass on crack. If it were anyone else, the Dems would be up in arms about the person not being arrested while the Republicans would be defending his right to bear arms. I’m not seeing too many people saying Hunter should be let free.

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      I’m not saying he should be let free, but I am saying they’re clearly seeking a disproportionate penalty than what most people get, because it’s politically motivated.

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      From what I’ve read, we routinely arrest people for drug charges who turn out to be longtime addicts and who have “legally” purchased guns. It happens all the damned time, there are rarely any significant repercussions, and nothing about this stands out about this case except who the guy’s father is. And I’m not saying he shouldn’t be held accountable for a crime, in just taking accepting to your “if it were anyone else” line.

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    Literally the only answer to this question, though. He can’t say he will pardon him, politically it would be terrible and it might impact the trial itself. And he can wait until after the election and pardon him then, even though it will mean he was lying now.

    I don’t think this comment is particularly newsworthy.

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    Why does Joe Biden not simply say the Deep State arrested his Son and then Pardon him and Blame any and all NEGATIVE Media on the Deep State too?

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    As a semi competent politician its obvious 1) you have to say this and 2) you do your upsetting pardons after the election