• EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Look in his defence He is also a politician and doesn’t want to be shot And even if he was for political violence it would be terrible press for him to say it

  • DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Trump could stand on Fifth Avenue and shoot someone… Hmmm, maybe playing with violent rhetoric wasn’t a good move for Trump.

  • Queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 months ago

    Rare Bernie L on this one. Let the fascist die in the most painful ways possible, he wants that for most Americans.

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      7 months ago

      This literally applies to any US president, or rather any political leader anywhere. Stop trying to justify violence.

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        Stop trying to justify violence.

        Literally what you’re doing, except you’re justifying violence against millions, while we’re justifying violence against the handful that perpetrate that violence against millions.

        We are not the same., and you definitely don’t have any moral high ground.

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          Wtf are you even talking about? There’s a very big difference from bad policies and what this is. For example, Obama involved the US in the Saudi Arabia led coalition against the Houthis in Yemen, and this one policy led to the deaths of tens of thousands. Does that justify somebody trying to assassinate Obama? No, of course not. Bush started two wars, does that justify somebody trying assassinate him? No, it doesn’t. Biden, is helping Ukraine defend itself from Russia which has also led tens of thousands to die, does that justify assassinating him? Again, no.

          If you want to bring any of them to face justice, that’s fine, but it has to be been done through our justice system where they go through trial… like we did with Trump. We can’t start a precedent inside the country that legitimatizes and normalizes political violence to achieve political violence at the cost of our democracy. That is the reason why everybody was in uproar over Trump’s Jan 6th insurrection. The democratic process has to be maintained, the peaceful transfer of power has to be preserved, and civil society has to be protected. We can’t have self righteous assholes going around on terrorism crusades killing anybody they don’t like. This is common sense, it’s insane that I have to even defend such a position.

    • rivvvver@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      7 months ago

      both help each other:

      If we are to learn from the successful movements of the past, we can see that all successful pressure has been the collusion of the peaceful and non-peaceful aspects of the movement, such that the peaceful party can lobby the state to concede, saying to them “now see? Wouldn’t you rather deal with me than them? Sit down and make some concessions to those suffering people.” Meanwhile, the non-peaceful protesters escalate the aggression of their actions such as to put a clock on the state.

      https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/black-flag-catalyst-the-black-flag-catalyst-protest-guide-v1-2

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    Even though I disagree with Bernie on a lot, he is a class act. This is absolutely the correct response. It shows that he has moral integrity and stands by his principles

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      And that is why the defenders of Democracy, the Democratic National Committee, cannot EVER allow him to come even this close to becoming a candidate or any candidate.

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    Let’s not forget, trying to remove access to health care is an act of violence that will cause people to die. Restricting access to women’s health alth care is an act of violence that will cause people to die. Outlawing gender affirming care is an act of violence that will cause people to die. Appointing judges to support these policies - and those judges writing opinions enabling those policies as well as opinions restricting environmental regulations - are acts of violence that will cause people to die. Locking migrants in cages is an act of violence that leads to people dying. So why are those acts of violence acceptable but this one is not?

    You might say that none of them are acceptable. But let me put it another way. Law enforcement shot and killed the perpetrator of this act of violence and we as a society deem it reasonable and justified. But why shouldn’t we do the same thing for this guy?

    And the answer is: we should.

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      Liberals would rather literally die than admit they are complicit with fascism. As long as there’s some “other” being killed, they won’t give a shit. Whether it’s blacks, immigrants, minorities, LGBT.

      They don’t give a shit about you as long as they get their daily Frappuccino.

      I hope this is a wake up call for many.

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        Not for any of the weirdo liberals who think that “the high road” is where we should be with fascists who are drooling non-stop with the idea of a second Civil War.

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        Liberals would rather literally die than admit they are complicit with fascism. As long as there’s some “other” being killed, they won’t give a shit. Whether it’s blacks, immigrants, minorities, LGBT.

        Okay bro you obviously live in a made up fantasy world.