Literally. I open up my terminal and try to cd Desktop only to be told that no such file exists. I thought for sure everyone this was happening to was just not reading something correctly and were foolish. Nope! It literally began deleting my files.
Edit 2: Even once it’s done and you have them locally and not “on demand”, the Desktop is in
~/OneDrive/Desktopinstead of~/Desktop. See this helpful comment.
It looks like there might be a way to sort of disable Files on Demand but it looks like it won’t let me do it until it’s done uploading? I’ll post updates.
Not to be dramatic, but I’m really going through it. My mouse logitech mouse is suddenly chattering really bad and double clicking everything. Also while Steam refuses to let me disable auto updates for all games in any sort of easy way. And DDG seems intent on only showing me results related to launching games without updating (as opposed to merely disabling auto updates until I launch). The chatter fixer I found for my mouse does not work and the other requires some logitech program to even try to use. (The repo doesn’t mention the name.) This is awful. When it rains it pours, I guess. Literally can’t even high light this text to wrap it in a spoiler. This is fucking stupid.
Context: My parents have a family plan for Microsoft 365 they added me too and it has 1 TB of storage I can use. I wouldn’t have turned it on otherwise.
Edit: My desktop background has literally vanished and turned solid black.
DO NOT ENABLE ONE DRIVE.
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In related news, I have had zero issues with my home network drive that is shared to the internet through FTP. Don’t use OneDrive unless there’s a really compelling reason to do so.
You most certainly are not, but for who it might concern: Never omit to protect this access with a VPN and/or even better ditch FTP and opt for secure protocols like SFTP.
Oh well yeah, I’m using SFTP. I didn’t think that I needed to be explicit, but I see now that I did.
For your mouse double click issue, I have a g600 and ran into the same thing. It’s due to a teeny tiny copper plate in the switch degrading over time. I’m not confident in my soldering skills to swap out the whole switches, but I was able to buy some new switches for like $5, pop open the little plastic switch box, carefully pull out the little copper plate with tweezers, pop open the switch on my mouse, and carefully replace the little copper plate with the new one. Worked like a charm.
I had the same issue a few years ago. After spending forever looking for a solution online, I found a fantastic video that explained the reason for this degradation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5BhECVlKJA
TLDW, it has to do with some components (the contact plates) being rated for electronics of the 90s, with higher voltage than today’s devices use. So these components are now subject to below optimal voltages (say, 1.8V or 3.3V), and tiny sparks happen that would not be there at 5V, thus damaging the plate ever so slightly.
Immediately after watching that video, I opened my mouse and scratched the plates with a flat screwdriver. I haven’t had a problem since then (it’s been a couple of years). But if it happens again I know exactly what to do to save my beloved G302.
Also, fuck OneDrive.
Are you me? I had the same Logitech mouse click issue and fixed it the same way; ordered extra switches online, opened them, and swapped only the copper plate. Mouse click works like a charm, as you said.
Do you perchance know if a similar manoeuver can be attempted to fix a mouse wheel click issue?
I think that would be more difficult because that is a different much smaller switch if I remember correctly.
Big thanks to Microsoft for their efforts to advertise Linux.
There was this mini golden era around 2019 or so where it really seemed like Windows was getting their shit together. I think a lot of places use Macs for development now and Windows was trying to get that market share back. Stuff like the new console and WSL were amazing.
It was earlier, when they released Windows 7 and it was the first (and only) release, management gave development a largely free hand and they could bring down some technical debt.
But apparently that didn’t work out for Microsoft and now we get one dystopian news after another.
WSL sounds really cool, but I was already gone by then. How well does it work/compare to bash?
It works well - for a Windows subsystem. It is well-integrated but also separate which can be annoying sometimes.
For example, you might code in Python in VSC against a WSL folder but make a script to eventually run in Windows. You need to install and update Python twice then - a Linux and a Windows version (obvious, but can be annoying).
WSL is also really slow, especially for filesystem heavy stuff. You know how on Linux programs sometimes run faster via Wine/Proton than on Windows itself? Yeah, this is the other way around.
It isn’t bash, it’s Linux that’s well-embedded with the rest of Windows. You can get most Linux stuff working reasonably well, and you can even get a working GUI of some distros.
Just saying ‘bash’ was ineloquent of me; could I easily open a terminal that feels like a Linux/UNIX shell?
Though from your comment, I expect the answer is “Yes.”
Yes, even Cygwin and Git for Windows feel like a Linux shell despite being less like Linux than WSL.
Honestly the type of stuff I do works good enough with MSYS through Git for Windows (which is a basic bash environment). There are three ways to get bash on windows,
- MSYS/Git for Windows: Lightest choice. Least capable. Very easy to set up.
- Cygwin: Only works with Linux stuff made for Cygwin. Pretty useful all in all but really weird to set up. Babun was my favorite way to use it.
- WSL: The most Linux like but at the steep cost of being very disconnected from the Windows side. It feels more like a VM than a shell sometimes.
I preferred the simplicity of Git for Windows and Cygwin. Now, if I still had Windows on a work computer I probably would’ve deep dove into WSL and figured it out more.
Most useful things i found in wsl that made it not feel like a vm is knowing the wslpath command, and the fact that it can execute any exe such as explorer.exe (which works for even wsl directories). those two things let you use sed/grep/awk on files in windows and execute any exe on stuff in linux.
We tried to onboard two devs into our project earlier this year with it and it was not good.
We spent 4 days trying to get it to work, and had all kinds of problems from VPN not working, DNS not working and compile times being 20x slower (as I later learned, you’re not supposed to use your Windows NTFS partition inside of it). Partially, this has to do with our corporate environment being annoying, but it simply being different from a normal Linux in this regard is still annoying.
On the fifth day, we set up a Linux VM with them and they were ready to work in an hour.
Yeah I swear from when Nadella took over until like 2 years ago, Microsoft really seemed to be on the right route. They were becoming the “good guys” of big tech companies.
WSL, actually being really good stewards of GitHub, Chredge actually (at first) being way better for users than Chrome, the amazing revitalisation of some of their oldest and most loved game franchises like Age of Empires and Flight Simulator.
But then recently we’ve had Microsoft adding shitty AI to everything, from Edge to Windows. We’ve had that AoE revitalisation tarnshined by showing off a really shitty official mobile game with all the makings of a typical pay 2 win time sink. The Age of Mythology remake has obvious AI art featured in it despite them insisting no AI was used (though thankfully the actual gameplay is as good as hoped for, at least). We’ve got large layoffs and other shitty corporate bullshit towards workers.
Once I get some extra money to fuck around with my computers, everything is becoming foss. Fuck Microsoft.
It happened to me once, disabled cloud backup on my documents folder, and onedrive decided if it can’t have my folder, no one can
I did get my data back, since onedrive kept it in the rubbish bin or somewhere like that
After that i nuked onedrive from my laptop, and now i use arch btw
I love that last line haha
cloud storage is not a backup. This should be engraved on all computers.
one drive is not even “storage” really - it’s more of a embryonic car crash waiting for an unwitting pedestrian to step in front.
If for whatever reason any masochists are using onedrive, tthey really need to know about proper backup .
Did you delete my files bro?
Literally
Oh. I can stop reading, then.
It’s used correctly, you diva.
You’re upset with the literal usage of the word literally? I wasn’t even using it figuratively for hyperbole.
(From one of the meme communities on Lemmy, can’t be bothered to search for it).
I thought OneDrive was a Windows thing. What’s it doing on Linux?
Where did I say it was on Linux? For the record, they do have a Mac client so they might have a Linux one too.
I think it was assumed based on your use of command line and unix-like paths such as
~/Desktop, which do not work in Windows Command Prompt. (Powershell has aliases for unix commands likels, so unix paths do work there)It’s just easier to type like that lol. That syntax works in Git for Windows.
Me signing into active directory
I use onedrive and I still hate this shit.
been unable to login to our auth server today so basically free day at work, thanks crowdstrike
Just an FYI, Windows likely just moved your files from users\[username] to users\[username]\OneDrive instead. When OneDrive sets itself up, it basically grabs all of the relevant folders and moves them into a single “OneDrive” folder. Not a huge issue if you’re setting up the PC for the first time. But if you’ve been using the PC for a while, it’ll break everything because now all of your local files have moved and none of your systems are pointing at the right location anymore. For instance, your desktop is likely black because your image file got moved into that OneDrive folder.
Was a computer repair tech until a few months ago. About 6 months ago this older guy brought in his laptop because he had been hacked and they had changed his password. Was able to change the password to something new using some fancy tools but upon getting in all his files were still missing. Turns out OneDrive was on and ALL of his important files were only on OneDrive and not the computer. Well, Microsoft had changed his password when the hackers changed his computer password so he was locked out and Microsoft didn’t believe he owned the account anymore since he didn’t know the password. After weeks of calls he just gave up trying to get his stuff back.
Fuck OneDrive.
I get the hate, but what is Microsoft to do in those situations? They have two users claiming to own the account, each with assumably the same level of proof (virtually none) and no backup recovery set. So what, they just believe the first person to call in and say “I was hacked can I have a new password”?
Unless something that links to the owner in a verifiable way exists on the account, which isn’t available to someone logged in (credit card number used for purchase for instance), I don’t really see a way around this.
The same thing happens with game accounts all the time. Two people with the same level of proof claim they own an account? Unfortunately the account gets marked as irreversibly compromised and permanently banned.
Its more that they created an unfixable situation, not that they can’t solve it
Its pretty shitty to ask for forgiveness not permission just to advertise onedrive
I don’t know that I’d consider this their fault. The user handed their info over to someone else. Yeah, it sucks that the end result is losing their files, but you can’t really hold a company responsible for their users doing dumb things.
The root of the problem is that Microsoft deleted his files off of his hard drive, without his understanding/consent. Had they not done that, there would have been no problem.
No? The “root of the problem” is that the cloud service the files were stored in, was deauthed. At that point, I would absolutely expect all files to be deleted.
You can argue that M$ shouldn’t have pushed for that by default, but the problem as described is “user stored their important files in one drive, they gave away their password, password was changed, new password was unknown, one drive removed all local copies of files stored in it, microsoft couldn’t verify who they were when they called.”
Had this been the other way around, where the scammer got file access and the original user reset their password, you’d expect the scammer to have the local copies deleted… would you not?
Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but I’d expect the scammer to already have any files backed up, immune to deletion.
Potentially but would you not expect one drive to at least remove the ones that it has access to?
They tool his files then told him he wanted that, then removed access.
Modern day cooperation’s are worse than 90’s scammers
I’m honestly not even certain what you’re trying to say in that first sentence.
Well I can fix the spelling mistake but I can’t fix stupid, so you’re on your own pal
The issue here is that OneDrive does not make it clear at all that your local files are going away when you enable OneDrive. On Demand is now on by default for everyone. Unless you know this is a thing that happens (or happen to catch weirdness like I did where the Desktop folder seemed to vanish because it was moved) there is no indication this is happening. That’s why this is Microsoft’s fault.
Yeah, that doesn’t really apply to the story I was replying to. The complaint was about Microsoft not believing the user owned the account.
It’s tangentially related to the overall topic, and that could indeed be the root cause, but “they didn’t give him access because he didn’t know the new password” is security 101.
Fair enough, “the user handed their info over to someone” sounded like you meant their files to OneDrive.
If Microsoft is unable to verify ownership of the account, they shouldn’t take ownership of your files.
Especially when the user experience is constantly guiding users who don’t know better to do exactly that
There are almost always ways to verify the correct owner for something like this… None of which it sounds like Microsoft was willing to do, as they only seemed to care about what the current password is.
You are making an assumption that the person can’t provide any way to identify himself as the owner. The story as written states they didn’t care about anything other than the current password.
Almost always != always, and an individual falling for a scam where they hand off their password would typically fall into the category of “unable to prove ownership”.
Yeah, like almost always what? Almost always hitting dismiss on all of the phone number verification and 2fa prompts because they’re “annoying”?
Insert surprised Pikachu face here
I’m confused. Wouldn’t he have access to his email and maybe phone number that is attached to his Microsoft account to prove who he is?
Never use onedrive
Yeah, gotta have several.
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