He’s fked with the establishment. And now the establishment is returning the favor.
He absolutely did not fuck with “the establishment”. He’s openly and proudly for sale lol.
Yes. He did. Went after establishment right and left. How the fk did you miss that? LOL
Probably cause it never even came close to happening? Gullible rubes like you wanted it to happen really bad and then imagined it when it didn’t.
I need you to show some examples please. For all I know, Trump is The Swamp incarnate. Gave his family and friends high positions in the government, spent millions of tax payer money for trips to places owned by him so he directly profited from every trip. He and his family took donations (and likely bribes) from the rich and poweful both in and outside the US and his policies are super good for the rich and bad for the poor. How anyone can think he’s “anti-establishment” is beyond me. The establishment is paying him to do what he does.
Hillary, Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Chris Christie, Dan Crenshaw, etc… to name a few people. Replaced NAFTA. Cut taxes. Allowed Canadian prescription drugs to come into the U.S., cutting the cost of prescription drugs - biggest drop in half a century. Reformed Clinton-era Crime bill which lowered the prison rate for Black Americans. Signed the VA Accountability Act and removed more than 2,500 employees for misconduct and poor performance. Did not start wars. Built relationships with the Middle East and was the only president ballsy enough to enter North Korean territory to have diplomacy with Kim Jong Un. He protected Medicare and Social Security—including from socialist “Medicare-for-All” schemes, which would kick 180 million Americans off their health plans. These are some of the things that Trump did that the Establishment REFUSED to do.
Trump was and still is for the People.
For those who don’t know, Here he is going after the establishment: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/09/trump-asks-oil-executives-campaign-finance-00157131
No, you don’t understand. He is occasionally rude to both high ranking republicans and democrats on twitter and in fox news interviews. That means he’s tough on the establishment, duh 🙄
Former President Donald Trump asked oil industry executives last month to donate $1 billion to aid his campaign to retake the White House… The oil industry has a long list of policy actions it would want Trump to take, including dismantling parts of President Joe Biden’s green agenda and rolling back pollution regulations that threaten to crimp their profits.
Yeah, he’s going after the establishment… Lmfao
He is the establishment
HAHA wtf.
These bastards are barely looking at the orb while they ponder it!
Yeah, he’s been an ultrawealthy real estate tycoon for the past 50+ years. It’s wild you missed that.
He didn’t miss it, he’s just a Nazi troll
He is the unmasked version of US politics that says the quiet stuff out loud.
Even for Trump, this one is a lot. It was essentially his campaign slogan. He didn’t just say it, he led chants of it in front of crowds.
He real scared about that sentencing.
I hope so.
We have the many videos. There’s probably a compilation on YouTube of him starting lock her up chants.
and this is why AI/deepfakes are so scary.
It isn’t just that there might be fake stuff out there. it’s that real stuff could get called fake. (“I didn’t say that. Deep fake FAKE NEWS FaKe NeWs!!!”)
If they can convince themselves to believe he never said it, I’m going to just assume Trumpism isn’t politics so much as mental illness.
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It’s doublespeak. We have entered the timeline where 1984 actually exists immediately in front of us. When the narrative is changed, the past is overwritten or denied, labeled as a deep fake and an attack by their political opponent.
Always has been.
I mean… in large part, I’m already there.
Interesting that you’ve doubted that
All humor and rhetoric aside, when 1/3 of a population thinks or believes a certain way, you can’t really call them mentally ill because they would have to deviate from a norm and they are part of the norm at that point.
But I don’t know how you could believe this lie without being delusional. Hence my comment. Yes I’ve thought they were all fucking nuts before, but that’s different from actually thinking they are ill.
I’m not a mental health professional so my opinion counts for shit anyway, but I do try to take these things seriously.
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His supporters wear the damn shirts
“It doesn’t matter, it was all AI generated by Antifa. Real Men Wear Diapers!”
https://youtu.be/S5cnrp5UNnA here’s one
LPT, strip the “?si=” part off the end of your youtube links. They are UUID tracking links meant to determine connections between users and are a massive cross-platform privacy violation.
Cool, edited
You can also replace the tracking parameter with #t=xxmyys to go to a specific timestamp in the video.
That YouTube tracking parameter is probably the one I encounter the most and it’s frustrating that the Firefox “Copy Link Without Site Tracking” doesn’t strip it out. I’m assuming it’s intentionally allowed by Mozilla because of some agreement with Google.
Mozilla and Google do have a bit of a mutually beneficial relationship going on, not one I really like, but Mozilla wouldn’t exist right now if it didn’t have it…
this is the way
That you reject the evidence of your eyes and ears is Trump’s essential command.
One of the memes that has followed Trump for almost a decade is “Lock her up!” Is he truly this lost that he forgot one of the things he ran for president (and won) chanting?
He truly believes his base doesn’t care, and they don’t.
We have always been at war with Eureast Asia.
“I didn’t say that forty thousand times during the 2016 election!”
LIED. He LIED, CNN. Say it!
“Falsely claimed” for fuck’s sake, you spineless republiQan sewer holes.
It’s been almost a goddamned decade CNN! WaPo? NYT? Looking at all you “falsely claimed” motherfuckers. When are you going to grow up? Hm? When are you going to actually do the work of journalism instead of your paper-thin republiQan brigading?
“Lied” implies intent, which is a very squishy subject. I’d prefer they stick to just the facts, please. I’m no lawyer, but I suspect you might be asking for libel suits if you claim somebody lied and can’t actually prove that they did so intentionally.
In a weird way I agree with both you and the person you replied to. My own personal doublethink, I suppose.
Let me get this straight: You’re not sure whether Trump did deliberately claim that he didn’t say, repeatedly, often, publicly, on the TV and on social media “lock her up”? You think he accidentally denied saying it, or you have come to doubt your recollection of “LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!”?
I’m thinking it doesn’t matter what we think, it matters which one could accrue expensive court costs. Because “false claim” is specific and provable, “lied” is murky and general. When it comes to libel and slander lawsuits, the legal system runs on semantics and pedantry.
Why should they open themselves to that kind of legal system enabled retribution? After all, we all know whose pants are on fire.
Trump would most definitely lose a libel case trying to claim that his obvious lie with transparent self-serving motivation was accidental or correct. He’s way too deep in legal costs and court cases to make an absurd suit like that, and there’s no point doing it because he doesn’t care that people know he’s an out and out liar.
A libel case is different.
The problem is Trump could claim “oops I forgot that I agreed with the crowd in 2016” and that is different than intentionally lying. That’s why journalists have to split hairs here; George Santos can be called a liar but saying Trump lied this time is harder. It opens a can of worms; when Biden inevitably gets a detail wrong in another story of his should they call him a liar?
This isn’t a detail, this was a campaign slogan. No one in their right mind would believe Trump didn’t know exactly what he was doing both then and now. Stop trying to introduce doubt where there is none, it’s absurd. (And no, he doesn’t want to spend more time and money in court right now.)
They accuse them of bad journalism. Supposing intent you can’t prove is the definition of bad journalism. People need to temper their instinctual emotions a bit. I’m upset about Trump being a serial liar too (which I can say, because I’m a nobody who can totally infer his intent) but cmon, can we not leave the very foundations of factual journalism in the dust in our quest to right that wrong?
If you can’t call a liar a liar that is not good journalism either
Why does journalism need to spoonfeed people? Why can’t we take accountability? They report the facts. Facts are provable, with evidence. You can only very, very rarely prove intent with evidence. A lie is an untruth delivered with intent. They cannot prove that and as such should not report it. We, as readers, should then piece the facts together. They’re giving you facts, not teaching you how to think. It’s not their job.
What? You are suggesting they can’t prove Trump said lock her up?
Of course you can prove he said that. That’s the untruth. Can you prove he knew he lied? You and I know that because it’s clear as day and we don’t need strict evidence, but journalists do because their job is to report facts and not assumptions, even obvious ones. It’s your job as a reader to take those facts and the surrounding context to construct what happened. They should not have to spoonfeed this to us in the exact verbiage we want just because we want to score a few more points because CNN said “lie”.
And you should genuinely be ashamed of your reading comprehension. Your response does not make sense considering what I wrote above. I addressed that directly.
I call bs
You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to find reasons to preposterously believe that Trump accidentally lied. We all know this is an outrageous lie. We all know he’s an outrageous liar. I’m not asking CNN or you to say so, though, I’m asking you not to overcomplicate a very simple, very obvious lie which has a very obvious motivation. No sane or rational judge or jury is going to believe that Trump was mistaken or that he told this untruth for anything other than self-serving reasons, and Trump isn’t going to sue CNN for libel on this open-and-shut case lie because he’s neck-deep in legal costs and court cases already.
tHeY hAvE tO bE oBjEcTiVe.
i just realized that Biden might pardon Trump lol
What, if anything, has he ever claimed that was true?
those fake videos aren’t me. Those are deep fakes from the deep state. I don’t remember saying that! No one I know, good people, remember that. This is the first time I’ve heard of Hillary Clinton!!
Proof of senility or a bald faced lie.
Either way, just one more reason he’s unfit.
That is a complete lie.
Of course he said that. How is anyone even surprised at this point? Since Day 1 he’s been saying whatever he wants to be true at the time - creating his own “reality” - and his base goes with it. He’s never been burdened by the truth, and there’s been no repercussions for his flagrant lying. Yes, this is an outrageous lie, but even in that it’s unremarkable.
Read this earlier today and it just blew my mind… I mean, he said it during a bunch of his rallies and invented the “lock her up” thing
