Just 1.4% of cases were among people who received two vaccine doses.
Make vaccines obligatory. Take people kicking and screaming if you have to, don’t care. The entire bullshit line “but muh rights” has nothing to do with this, you don’t have the right to make the world a worse place, you don’t have the right to risk other people’s lives.
Make vaccines obligatory, exceptions only for those that have real and supported medical reasons like auto immune diseases.
If you don’t, you get fine, jailed, and vaccinated anyway.
Ah, that feels good writing that down.
There are people who legitimately can’t take some vaccines for legit medical reasons. For example, I worked in a hospital and was required to get an annual flu shot and it was always an issue. Why? I’m epileptic, and it could trigger a seizure. I never had an issue though, and fought to get the vaccine. Only missed one year with a charge nurse who wouldn’t risk it. I then went and got it on my own. Hospital acquired infections are no joke, and that applies to the staff as well as patients.
But other than that, I agree.
That’s why I said with exceptions for those that have legitimate medical reasons, doctors should have to sign off on that.
And quickly for those that think “ooohhh, I’m a doctor and I’m antivaxxer, I can sign” (and yeah, those exist unfortunately) you wouldn’t be the first one to go to jail for that, though as far as om concerned, if you mess with human safety because of your conspiracy beliefs, you can go to jail for 20 years instead of 2.
Back in my day we got chickenpox and we liked it.
Back in my day our parents had parties for chicken pox. The older you get, the worse it is.
There was no vaccine when I was a child.
I got it from my sister as a kid. I felt fine. She is six years older and was pretty bad with it.
My brother caught it first. He developed keloids from it. I was maybe 6 or 7 at the time. I had to wear mittens on my hands till it healed.
Fuck antivaxxers, unless there’s a demonstrated prior allergic reaction these fuckers should pay an extra tax just for being alive.
I don’t think that avoiding vaccines is a very good idea, but I only really care about it to the extent that it’s a risk to other people.
With COVID-19, there’s a major risk in that a dangerous disease is rapidly spreading and there’s a major concern that hospitals may get overwhelmed, leading to death rates spiking. Not being vaccinated was a serious risk to other people.
In this case, according to the article, only 1.4% of the people involved had been fully-vaccinated. Even if every single case was a result of an infection from someone who wasn’t vaccinated, virtually all of the people who are being hurt are either not vaccinated or only partially-vaccinated. There is no risk of hospitals being overwhelmed.
It’s not zero-impact on other people, but that impact is pretty limited in this case.
In general, my take is that people should be entitled to a warning, but if they still want to do something to themselves that is a really bad idea and the impact is pretty much on them, well…
A chickenpox infection lingers in the body and can surface years later as shingles, which can be debilitating, especially for older adults. Having personally had shingles as a teenager when it’s not dangerous, I can assure you that you don’t want to get it because someone else refused to get vaccinated. When I had it, vaccines for chickenpox and shingles didn’t exist yet.
I can’t really endorse literally forcing vaccinations, but penalties for not being vaccinated are ok in my book.
Why would you vaccinate against chickenpox, unless you mean for adults? Children should just be exposed to it.
And I’m not going to pay any penalty for refusing to put some research chemical into my body.
The chickenpox virus persists in your body and can surface decades later as shingles. Look up what that experience is like if you want. I can assure you it’s not pleasant. Once you get that, there’s no getting rid of it. Children should NOT be made to purposely catch chickenpox. It puts them at rsignificant risk of debilitating disease later on.
One vaccine is effective at preventing both, and there’s no real reason not to get it unless you’re allergic to the ingredients.
I wonder how many of the 10% would be unaffected if the rest had gotten vaccines
I’m so happy there is a chickenpox vaccine! I was at the edge of that, getting it before it was available. It was hell.
It was more hell for my mother who had never gotten chickenpox as a child. So had it as an adult. Agony! And have to deal with sick twins!
