/shocked
Good.
Hey Tesla board. This guy is the entire reason I don’t want anything to do with your company.
Also in America. Here in California I know several people that sold their Tesla because of lonE skuM and many more who wouldn’t buy because of him. I myself have told Tesla recruiters in two occasions that I’d never work for that piece of shit
Recruiters??!?!!?!
Why in the world would he possibly need to recruit people:
- To come live in abject fear of his every whim?
- To be expected to work 24 hours a day seven days a week?
- To not be able to have a family?
All the best talent will be lining up for some of that!!!
At this point having Tesla on your résumé means you couldn’t do better.
“yes, i would like to relocate and dedicate my life to a company that might fire the entire team just because one day the CEO snorted too much ketamine”
I was in the market for an EV shortly after he took over twitter. I ruled Tesla out because I do not want to be seen to support that douche in any way.
I actually bought my Tesla about a year before he took over Twitter. The supercharger network has proven itself on a few long trips, which is the main reason I’m holding onto it for now.
I can pretty much guarantee that my next car will be an EV but definitely not a Tesla. Since virtually all EV manufacturers have announced support for J3400 in the next few years I figure there will be a handful of decent options for me to choose from in 5-10 years.
They’re certainly massively ahead of the competition with their charging network, I won’t argue with that. I’m fortunate enough that I can charge at home and that’s pretty much all I have ever done. I have not needed to do a cross-country road trip.
I’m one. When he moved Tesla engineers to work on Twitter and then went on an unhinged anti-Trans rant in the middle of an earnings call, I shopped around and traded in my model 3. I always assumed the major selling point of a Tesla was the software, but he keeps fucking with the people who make it.
I think a lot of it was the charging network. What happened with that again? Oh yeah. He fired that whole team.
Enough about this douche canoe, can he disappear from social sphere? I don’t want to hear about this guy rant every day for the next 50 years !
There is literally an avenue in which we can put him on a rocket and send him to Mars. I am all for it.
No, because he’s rich and influencial and keeps saying and doing shit that gets him front page in the news. That’s the way the world works unfortunately.
I think we’d all love that. I genuinely wish the asshole would take a trip to see the titanic.
Which one?
Yes.
You hit it right!
I’m gonna need another decade or two before I get an EV.
I’m gonna wait for the $15,000 economy shitbox model. Whoever ends up making it.
Noooo people need EV’s that do 0-100 in 2 seconds that cost 80k
Citroen Ami is around 7k €
I’m actually in the market for a new car, and it’s going to be an EV, but Tesla is not on my short list. (not just because of Musk, also because I think those cars are hideous, and I really dislike how a single iPad is used for everything. I need some physical buttons, especially for the airco unit) Instead I’m looking at the Renault Scenic or the Kia EV3.
Doesn’t hurt that they are also shit cars made out of melted down plastic from burger king kids meal toys and used dental floss and are prone to bursting into flames after “self driving” into walls or freeway medians.
I’m target demo for a Tesla. Upper middle class techie. My next car will be an EV and I actually like Teslas. I like a lot of things about them but I will absolutely not buy one while Elon is in charge of the company. Fuck that guy. He’s not getting any of my money.
Same here, even with all the BS around Twitter and his political views… I WAS still considering a Tesla, but with the pro-Trump PAC and the deep fakes on Xitter it’s just another level of bullshit.
Hoping he gets forced out in the next year because I also don’t want to buy from a dealership, which doesn’t leave me a lot of options for an EV.
The tesla shareholders just approved a 55 billion dollar bonus that a court had previously struck down.
Hes not getting voted out. This is what they want.
Presumably it’s “… worth in stock”, and might even have vesting periods. He doesn’t get that much unless the stock price stays high
Ditto. I have 3 requirements above the current cars though:
- Better range
- more physical controls, everything that isn’t media or GPs needs physical buttons
- Elon must not profit
Add “real steering wheel” to that cause that futuristic airliner yoke shit would absolutely kill me the first time I try to cross over to turn.
I won’t buy Tesla but to be fair, the yoke in the cybertruck is one of the few things that every reviewer says works great. There’s no crossover turn, the wheel maxes out well before then so you keep your grip as it is. Instead, the turn input is progressive depending on how much you turn the yoke and dynamic depending on how fast you’re going. They say in practice, it quickly feels very natural.
Media also. It’s super valuable to change songs with no fiddling.
The physical control is a big one. I’m not using software capable of driving a vehicle that’s made and controlled by a Nazi.
Same demographic, but sadly I already bought a model Y cause I wanted a 7 seater with a 5 star crash safety rating…
Needless to say the car isn’t good enough to compromise on my morals moving forward and the next car will probably be that VW Buzz. That thing looks so fun.
Bought one too. I have a model 3 which I really enjoy and would probably have bought another Tesla next if it wasn’t for Elon going mad.
So sadly no more Tesla for me. Buzz is nice, as is the beemer i4.
Same here, some friends of mine really got into car hacking with Teslas in particular and I was looking forward to sharing more hobbies with them. But at this point, I’d be embarrassed as hell to tell anyone I intentionally bought a Tesla, even a used one. And besides, if I really want the “sleek futuristic electric car by the dedicated electric car company”, Rivian exists (unless their CEO is somehow worse than Elon 😬😩)
Rivian needs a Y/3 competitor. It’s over 100k for a Rivian in Canada. A Y is 54k, a 3 is just under 50k to qualify for federal and provincial incentives.
Yeah, I said that without looking up the prices for a Rivian and remembered why I’m not actually considering getting one 😭. The world just still isn’t ready for an all electric car manufacturer that is both affordable and not run by a manchild smdh
Well lucky for us they have the R2/R3(X) in the pipeline. Can’t come soon enough though, 2026 for the R2 seems like a lifetime away.
If he is worse than Elon, he at least has the decency to hide it.
I got a Cadillac lyric instead and I love it
That’s good, because people really do conflate the drivers with Elon’s fans, and also with Trump. I’m one of them. Fuck Elon, and fuck every Tesla driver.
Same. Upper middle class and work for a large hyperacaler.
Tesla was the only one excluded from my recent EV search. Loving the Polestar 2 so far.
Tesla would be right to dump this clown, but he ain’t leaving without killing Tesla first.
72% of stakeholder vote favored giving him a stupid huge bonus, even stupid by rich billionaire standards. This was after TSLA took a hit and their sales were down and their unit prices were way down.
Tesla’s all in on Musk. Probably easier to accept as someone who never did like their particular cars and if anything is a bit annoyed that the traditional car companies felt compelled to copy the stupid parts of Tesla when making their EVs. I can see if someone liked Tesla how they could hope to evict Musk… Just not going to happen.
That’s mostly institutional investors. I suspect it was actually a reward for ruining Twitter.
After that vote I will enjoy seeing the shareholders should get exactly what they voted for.
That just means their stakeholders deserve the financial ruin that’s coming to them.
The problem is that Tesla is a meme stock. It’s stupidly overpriced for a car company with such little production.
They could get rid of musk and try to turn it into a normal company with solid fundamentals but this would remove its meme status and crash the share price anyway.
There’s no way to fix Tesla without burning it’s stock price to the ground, so anyone involved is just going to try to ride the crazy train as long as possible.
Come on Elon, make the Cybertruck 2 and really fuck everything up.
No, it’s an AI company now bro. Trust me.
Exactly. What I don’t understand is how everyone knows this, but somehow the stock is still high. Somehow Elon is singlehandedly keeping the stock up while doing literally nothing to help the company, make it make sense.
They’re all his friends and family who Musk made very rich. They’re not gonna dump him.
It’s hurting it in the USA too. All the lefties I know who own Teslas are pretty much ashamed of them now. None of the maga are suddenly going to start buying electric cars.
Maybe they should buy EVs to own the libs.
That would… make me angry. So angry. Noooo…. Don’t!
🫣
I think he should sue the EU customers! It’s unfair their political beliefs are hurting his business.
Good idea. Then, this entitled, out-of-touch crybaby can sue the kid that took his juice in Kindergarten!
I’m seeing plenty of Teslas though.
There are less than the Tesla phase a few years ago, but that’s mostly because competitors also started doing electric cars. I think more and more people are stepping away from fully electric vehicles as a whole, and moving to hybrids instead. Especially now that a lot of countries are starting to notice the drain on energy networks.
But I doubt they’re really “struggling”.
Especially now that a lot of countries are starting to notice the drain on energy networks.
Lmao
But I doubt they’re really “struggling”.
You don’t have to sit there and imagine things, because they are a publicly traded company…
That’s the US.
I’m talking about Europe. Just like the article.
And yes, there are literally countries in Europe that are looking into dealing with energy drains. Since these cars easily take up the same as an entire household overnight.
Also, you’re basing your ‘facts’ on pure imagination and speculation. The opinion of one business owner does not represent the entire market.
Tesla’s market share in Europe declined from 27.8% to 19.9% year over year as of this past March. Tesla’s sales in Europe fell 36% while BMW and Volvo had 60% and 70% growth in EV sales over the same period, respectively.
https://www.whichev.net/2024/04/25/tesla-tops-european-car-sales-charts-but-theyre-still-not-happy/
And nowhere does it confirm your or anyone else’s wild speculation that it has anything to do with Musk’s attitude or his backing of Trump.
I’d also hardly call those percentages a struggle, they had a big lead because of slacking competitors. It’s just competing more with existing brands and Chinese brands in Europe now that they’re catching up.
When every other company manufacturing the same thing as you is making massive gains, because the whole market is expanding, and you’re suddenly posting losses, that’s going to raise so questions
Is it weird that a part of me wishes I was as confident in myself being right about stuff as you are about yourself?
Nah, the Dunning Kruger effect is unfortunately just as common as impostor syndrome. It’s incredibly rare for confidence to be appropriate to competence 🤷
LOL, seems like you are only are aware of Tesla losses and try to explain it that it is because a power grid can’t handle it.
In reality it is that Tesla is losing customers which are fleeing to other manufacturers.
As for the energy consumption, for example in California 25% of new car sales are BHEV. Currently electric cars use 1% of the power and the estimates are that by 2035 (when sales of new ICE vehicles will be banned) this will go to 4%.
Since these cars easily take up the same as an entire household overnight.
You mean the same as the household take up overnight where most are sleeping and have turned almost everything off? That’s not actually a lot…
“lots of people are buying Tesla’s”
“People are stepping away from fully electric vehicles.”
Which is it? Are Tesla’s strong or weak? Or are we somehow in a situation where EVs are weak and Tesla is strong?
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I’d love an EV that is fast and affordable like a tesla. I wanted a tesla but couldn’t afford it. Now I can afford it but there is no way in hell I’m buying one. Fuck him, he should fuck off to Mars or the sun, either is a big W for the world.
He doesn’t deserve to go to Mars before NASA
I kinda expect a lot of people will come to regret going, seeing as it’s a dead nearly-airless rock too far from Earth for synchronous communication, so he can go first, that’s fine.
He’s not. He’s a bloviating idiot with no idea about what he’s talking about. He’s been able to look smart by throwing money at problems, but going to Mars is going to be a money pit for him.
I have no idea why NASA still contracts with him. We can’t talk about Jack Parsons, because he was besties with Crowley and did sex rituals to summon the AntiChrist (which just makes him cooler IMHO) - but Muskrat can do whatever he wants.
The mission to mars will be well after he builds the hyper loop across California, US, and Tesla implements full self driving. In other words, it’s something he told investors to secure their investment for something shorter term, while making it sound like he’s thinking far into the future.
And if he ever does sacrifice some suckers to keep up appearances, I don’t think he’d put up his hand to be one of them!
I’m banking on him not making it there, and if he does, it was a one way trip.
Why not buy from one of the other car brands?
I’m a car guy. It has to be fast. Nobody else has that fast at that price.
Taycans aren’t that much more expensive than a Model S, each starts ballpark 100k Euro.
True, but here I can get a used dual motor long range 3 for 20k. Can get a little older fast S for 17k. The Mach E GT is pretty on par with that but they’re 10-15k more and half a second slower in the quarter mile. I know it shouldn’t matter, but it does to me, it’s my thing.
TIL there is actually one legit selling point.
Mach-E GT’s are a steal right now
Why not get a frame from a scrap yard and have one built, mind ya this only works if ya have the liquad cash but imagine a 1995 Toyota 4runner but its all electric.
Illegal in Norway. So many people would be building their own, but when the laws make them illegal, they’re not built. It’s bullshit.
Why is it illegal? I there are hundred year old car frames out there doing great, so why outlaw frame and interior reuse.
No idea. Just remember reading about it years ago. https://www-nrk-no.translate.goog/dokumentar/xl/hvorfor-lonner-det-seg-a-kaste-bilen_-1.15232892?_x_tr_sl=no&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp link to translated article.
I’ve looked into it. It’s still pretty pricey. I’m sure at some point in the near future swap parts will become more available and less expensive. When that happens, I’ll make a neat sleeper.
If you don’t mind used, plenty of cheap fast EVs. I got mine for more than half off that was 2 years old and has 13k miles
I only like the part where you can just order from the website instead of going to a dealership where after one hour of talking and giving you a plethora of personal data that is guaranteed to inundate you with spam they tell you that due to high demand the car sells for 3k over MSRP
For the rest, while I really like the clean design, for me a car must have
- A stalk for the indicator lights
- Gear selector on physical buttons
- Climate on physical buttons
- If it comes with automatic windshield, a $1 wet sensor that works in any visibility instead of trying to do it in software with computer vision
- If it comes with parking sensors, an array of $2 ultrasonic sensors that always work instead of trying to do it in software with computer vision
- Android auto/carplay. I want to be able to choose which app is used with navigation or use different ways to send messages besides sms. If the car operating system doesn’t allow me to send messages using signal or to use offline openstreetmaps, then for me it’s limited
I actively don’t want a fast EV. Maybe a quick one but I don’t want a fast one.
I like having more horsepower than minimum viable but who needs it to go from 0 to 90 in 2.1 femptoseconds? If it can keep up with or slightly outgun my Buick Century we’ll be okay.
Why would I want my EV to carry around the weight of the motors necessary to perform like a supercar?
Well said. Gradual acceleration is far more energy efficient, safest, and less damaging to the vehicle so driving like a grandpa is definitely the smartest way to drive.
I want to go 0 to 60 2.1 femptoseconds. I drive a car now that does it in 3.9, I can’t go back to slow. Like I said, I’m a car guy. There’s nothing else like feeling the G’s when you smash the accelerator.
I just lost all interest in performance cars after aerobatics training. Barrel roll a Pitts S2B and let me know if you give a shit about cars anymore.
That’s what I felt about motorcycles after flying planes. Motorcycles are freeing… But planes can move in another direction.
I don’t give a shit about flying, I’ll stick to four wheels on the ground. That’s the beauty of being an individual, not everything is for everyone.
Used market is full of teslas. Just don’t buy new. Few weeks ago you could get long range Tesla 2021 model (the one with heated battery) for £16k.
That isn’t bad advice. If you remove the Tesla emblems from it then that also makes it clear that you don’t identify with Musk’s neo-nazi views.
Don’t worry, my comment will be removed shortly anyway. Because it doesn’t align with the accepted view.
Because everyone is out there buying new cars… News and world news are becoming awful places to be.
