• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I mean, this was 100% predictable.

    And anyone who didnt think it would happen were willfully blind or just plain ignorant.

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      6 months ago

      Hey man, I think your keyboard is broken.

      Every single reply you have made in this thread is just the exact same thing.

      • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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        6 months ago

        I know. It’s noyy keyboard, it’s me.

        I’ve had 30 years of having to read one Microsoft bullshit article after another, and then watch people go like sheep and give more monies to Microsoft for their shit. I’m kinda done with that and if my replies are annoying to you, imagine me having to deal with that for 30 years already.

        The simple truth is that Linux works, is more reliable and more usable than windows… frankly, always had been. The biggest “ooohhh difficult!” part about it is that a few things work slightly different. Takes 5 minutes to understand and you go. Most people use windows with all its bullshit to do some word stuff and browse the internet. Guess what? You can do that too on Linux. Since 20 years ago already, that’s how long I’ve been on Linux desktop.

        Fuck Microsoft bullshit that always ALWAYS vuases problems

      • sysop@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        Honestly, I’m so sick of Microsoft’s bullshit, I just want to spread to love of Linux desktop. They’re more than free to downvote me in to oblivion. I’m pro-freedom over the software, open source software, and freedom to use the hardware we want to use. Plus I really love Manjaro and XFCE. KDE’s a good experience, but Windows 11 has advertisements in its start menu, and I’m not entirely sure what that ‘screenshot your desktop to feed an AI’ stuff was about but I’m not really down with that.

        So, don’t thank me, but I would hope more people enjoy the different flavors of Linux desktop or give them a chance. The only way to not have Microsoft jam its software/cloud services/Teams down your throat is to get the HIPAA related Windows 11 OS which they make it a pain in the butt to grab.

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    6 months ago

    And here I am using a modern Linux OS on a 15 year old desktop without any issues or nagging to log into an online account or to backup all my shit to some server, open to hackers, in windows world.

  • Brkdncr@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Article isn’t that great. The change is in beta, and it’s preventing the installer from accepting a switch that declares the OS to be a server product.

    MS hasn’t said it’s going after any upgrades that are running out of spec hardware. This really sounds like they are just fixing an upgrade option.

    • JackbyDev@programming.dev
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      6 months ago

      You’re misunderstanding, they’re stopping people like you and me who don’t have those.oj their PCs from upgrading via workarounds, not preventing us from a forced upgrade.

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    6 months ago

    wants people to use windows 11 make it difficult to use windows 11 people find ways to use windows 11 anyway (what you wanted in the first place) punish them for using windows 11

    ???

    • Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Greed.

      Sure, they want you to run Win11, but chances are you’re already running it, or at least Win10, so there’s not much to gain there.

      By making higher requirements for Win11 than neccessary Microsoft makes a killing on Windows licences.

      OEMs have to pay Microsoft for keys. And for MS to make money off of keys, OEMs need to make more PCs. And how does MS force/incentivise them to do that? By 80% of the Win10 PCs incompatible with Win11.

      Oh, and also, now they get to push their Copilot key as well.

      Microsoft has a vested interest in PC sales not stagnating any more than they do, and sometimes it takes an artificial push to make that a reality.

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      6 months ago

      People that are running a windows modified to disable the hardware eligibility checks are probably also disabling/deleting the telemetry and activation checks.

      Microsoft doesn’t want you to use windows 11, they want your money and data.

      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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        Which is why I dropped windows after 7 and went linux. Telemetry bullshit was odious in 10, but in 11 the spyware is basically one of the core functions/purposes.

        Its why they pushed Windows 11 for free. Cause its not the product, you are.

        Theres more money to be made in monetizing your daily using habits and selling them (and serving you tons of ads), than there is in making you pay 150-200 bucks for the new OS once.

        And that new direction and drive radically alters how they develop the OS, and how you, the user, may interact with it. Which is why Windows is on the path of becoming a walled garden experience, with strict controls for “Security” (I.E. to keep you from doing anything that might impede their harvesting of data)

  • مهما طال الليل@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    I only use Windows 11 because it came preinstalled on the latest laptop I bought. Otherwise I have been a Linux user for over 15 years and will switch back sooner or later. Microsoft is making their products the immoral choice and I do recommend boycotting them.

  • VitabytesDev@feddit.nl
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    6 months ago

    Why though? This just means that Windows 11 will run on more devices? Why is so important for your device to have a TPM and Secure Boot enabled, and a supported processor? If I were Microsoft, I would put the requirements even lower or even removed them.

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      6 months ago

      This is just my theory, but maybe they want to turn it all into android-levels of lockdown for even stricter DRM and such.

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    6 months ago

    If it’s just an installer check then people could just use the old installer versions and update afterward right? Or are they planning on stopping updates for unsupported hardware that already installed windows 11?

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      6 months ago

      It’s MS. I wouldn’t be surprised if they bricked systems attempting to bypass the requirements.

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    6 months ago

    As far as i know, windows 10 is still more functional, less of a resource hog (in windows terms), far FAR less telemetry and it just looks fucking nicer. It costs nothing to not upgrade, or you pay the tribute and join the linux brotherhood

    • vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works
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      6 months ago

      You’ve got around 9 months left on Win10 supportability. Then it will move in to LTS channels only. It was incredibly well adopted so we have to believe any open vulnerabilities will be targeted quickly and relentlessly. Sadly, we will be in a 11 only world by this time next year.

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        6 months ago

        I’m fine with just the security updates until 2025. I’m sure I’ll eventually be able to move on to Linux by then.

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          6 months ago

          Hell, I look forward to the only updates being security. Microsoft seems to think anyone likes having their OS change overnight.

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      6 months ago

      How does that make any sense? Does Microsoft get a cut of sales for component upgrades?

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        6 months ago

        Any new computer sold that has a copy of Windows preinstalled means Microsoft is getting a cut.

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          6 months ago

          Are they still doing that thing where OEMs pay licenses based on units sold regardless of OS? So even if you want Linux, they still have to pay for windows?

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          6 months ago

          Obviously, but we’re talking about a really, really small subset of users that probably would earn Microsoft less than a week of coffee in their corporate office.

      • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        6 months ago

        people can’t upgrade.

        people see their computer isn’t supported.

        people buy a new computer.

        oems license windows.

      • frazorth@feddit.uk
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        6 months ago

        This question makes no sense.

        Most Windows users are not technical enough to do component upgrades.

        • Halosheep@lemm.ee
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          6 months ago

          People who are technical enough to get around the system requirements to install windows 11 on a system that doesn’t meet the minimum requirements is most likely technical enough to upgrade their own computer.