Apologies for the slightly off-topic post…
It’s not looking good, folks…
George R R Martin confirms he hasn’t written anything for the 2 remaining A Song Of Ice And Fire books since 2022.
He wishes that they were finished.
The last published book in the series, A Dance With Dragons, was published in July 2011, now 13 years ago.
Obligatory song that’s now 12 years old… https://youtu.be/j7lp3RhzfgI
This is probably not the place to discuss just how fragile IRL feudalism was to actual runs of bad winters and sub-par summers, which were notorious for causing famines that spread across nations. I can’t speak about how it works in Westros, but volcanic winters and bad solar weather shifted the tides of history here on earth.
Considering the notion of decades long winters, the people of Westros would likely be forced to be migratory much like the Dothraki.
That all said, it still was a rich world, and I suspect Martin just wrote himself into a bunch of corners.
And his understudies have all flown the coop to become famous in their own writing
Eventually winter came and they all rolled over and died. The end.
George R. R. Martin
Rocks fall, everyone dies.
Genius, what world building!
I imagine this is about all he’s come up with since the show started…
Be honest, do you think he’s worked on them at all since the show started?
He may have done a chapter, maybe two since then? That’s probably it, though.
He has no intention of finishing, especially now that the show is done and people are left with negativity surrounding the ending. It’s the worst possible situation for him, because even if he wanted to finish the books there’s just no way he can do it.
IMO, the best thing he can do is acknowledge this, and draw a line in it. Either hand it off to a protégé or writer friend that is happy to continue the story, or outright say that ASOIAF is done.
Or just hire a ghost writer. Nobody needs to know and even if it comes out, nobody would care.
at this point this is a HL3 situation and it’s better if he never finishes the series. it will never live up to expectations. leave it be. if you enjoyed the story so far, celebrate that and move on. it’s about the journey, not the destination.
He’s never finishing the series. He’s going to be 76 in a month, he still has probably most of Winds to finish after 13 years, the math doesn’t work out to getting A Dream of Spring, let along the fact that this story is way too big to satisfactorily conclude in 2 books at this point, and even if it could be done it would be complex and difficult and take longer than usual.
I’m irrationally still hopeful we get Winds. But that is it.
Yea I gave up on it too…
I gave up about a decade ago. It just relief accepting the fact the it’s never gonna be completed.
Martin gave a more nuanced answer in which he said he envied authors who self-publish their books and thus don’t have to worry about deadlines
Like this bitch is worried about deadlines. Like deadlines mean a goddamned thing to him. I remember when Game of Thrones started airing wondering if he could finish the books before the show ended. This seemed like a possibility at the time? I don’t even remember. All I know is there has been nothing for 13 years. 13 years. I get it, he’s having more fun with other shit, but just hire someone to ghostwrite them with you. This is your main legacy, whether you want it to be or not.
Apparently being constrained by deadlines turned him into a procrastinating, spineless teenager.
Honestly, what a piece of shit.
Relax, it’s just a book.
How to kill your fan base by making them wait decades: a GRRM story
Twist the knife with that God awful last few seasons to the show, too. Really kill any good will you had with your fans.
I liked most of the last few seasons. Everything up to the Night King’s death was good IMO; it went to shit when they rushed Daenerys going nuts afterwards
I’m afraid what happened is that he saw the fan reaction as a hate of the major plot points themselves, rather than of the abysmal pacing and handling of it all. We’ve been told that the broad strokes were from his drafts and plans for the series.
If I were grrm I would hire the last seasons writers to help me finish the books. Ultimate troll.
Good for him. I would also want to pretend the last season didn’t exist.
I’m still waiting on a sequel to the Runaway Bunny
So no one read the article? Just the headline?
This references a statement he made in 2023 which itself references a statement he made in 2022 saying he had the same number of pages completed.
This is an assumption that he has done nothing, rather than the far more likely situation of rewrites and editing.
People seriously some basic media literacy lessons.
Plus it’s not like he’s literally done nothing for thirteen years. He did Fire and Blood, wrote for TV, did a bunch of companion books, edited and produced stuff, and so on.
It would be nice if Winds didn’t seemingly get put on the backburner, but creators really can’t control their inspiration. George has as many stories to tell as hes always had, but for whatever reason he’s having trouble coming back to finish the story he started almost thirty years ago, and TBH I get it.
rather than the far more likely situation of rewrites and editing.
At this point that feels like the bigger assumption
Especially after 13 years.
he’s an old man, who finally enjoyed some success late in life, let him enjoy his last days in peace ffs.
The last published book in the series, A Dance With Dragons, was published in July 2011, now 13 years ago.
The whole of Malazan Book of the Fallen was released over 12 years. I think he just needs to admit he’s not going to finish at this point.
Malazan has the benefit of it all mostly having been played out already. It’s just a question of how to tell that story.
George still hasn’t figured out where the story is going. Or if he did, he probably changed his mind once the show aired.
Book of the Fallen was not mostly played out, the gameplay was mainly the backstory of the Malazan empire
True. I think he’s written himself into a bit of a hole or maybe just fallen out of love with the project.
Lol, I’m not exactly a fan of the series (I only really liked the first two books) but this is ridiculous. At this point he is just trolling. I’d say I’m happy I moved on. I haven’t even bought A dance with dragons because I couldn’t finish the one before that as I didn’t really like it. That being said, I’d like to get a conclusion to the story and I’m willing to go back to the series AFTER it’s concluded (which most likely will never happen).
Shocking.
GoT’s final half and definitely last season pissed me off to no end at the time, but in retrospect I’m glad I don’t have to care about this anymore.
