• Eol@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Open thoughts… But I feel like it’s dumb to equate every “fascist” to Hitler and use Hitler and WW2 imagery. I feel like it dumbs things down.

    If you believe Trump or whoever is a fascist their actions and their own image is enough. People aren’t going to think differently because X is portrayed as Hitler. It seems like gimmicky propaganda to do that. Anyone you would ever want on “your side” would understand this. As result people disregard both “sides”. Do you want people to switch to your side because of social political marketing or because they are actually cognitive enough to have a real understanding of life and reality? Imo it seems like a way to get useless people to join your side out of emotion. In turn dumbing down your side to emotionally reactive people. Marketing doesn’t get you a base that cares, it gets you a following.

    I suppose that’s fine in war if you want cannon fodder to use… But that also sounds like something an anti fascist wouldn’t want.

    In modern politics it’s like it’s an art to build the biggest base of useless people to abuse for cannon fodder.

    • You are right, but many Americans probably wouldn’t get it if you used Stalin. For better or worse, Hitler is the face of fascism; Stalin the face of communism. They were both fascists, as were Mussolini, and Stalin.

      It’s just short-hand imagery; everybody knows what you mean. Pinochet was a fascist dictator, but he was also a brutal sociopath, so he’s confusing, even if people recognized him.

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    Fascism has always been a feature of America and part of this country’s core. The Trump admin is a real threat. It doesn’t help the Dems fighting against fascist are perfectly fine with standing by and working with fascists with bipartisan efforts that only go in the right-wing direction.

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      No. Not same sides. Don’t. The problem is the fascists. Not the naivete of civil servants trying to fund the VA and Medicare.

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        If you stand beside fascists and are fine with state violence and genocide, you aren’t some type of pillar of democracy. The reason the GOP is so strong no matter what they do, Dems will still address them as their friends and colleagues. While the GOP fights dirty and stays committed to long term goals in lock step.

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          What are you doing each day when you’re not on your keyboard? The party represents the constituents. People are naive to the zero sum game stakes at hand. So they vote themselves into DNC positions. They’re just people. Like you and me.

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            All people can do is support each other through mutual aid and education and local elections. The long track record of just pick the lesser evil and vote harder isn’t working. Not much people can do.

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    We’ve seen it, us who live outside of America and have had the pleasure of being invaded. Must be nice to use everyone else’s land as battlefields and never having to fight one at home, and ignoring the atrocities and fascism committed by your armies on foreign soil.

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      WWI and WW2 were absolutely necessary actions to contain others aggression. The Korean war is the only reason that the entirety of Korea isn’t under an insane dictatorship. Afghanistan attacked the US (stupidly enough) Iraq v1 was to contain a war of aggression.

      Vietnam and Iraq v2 were wrong.

      and fascism committed by your armies on foreign soil.

      How does one commit a fascism?