Interesting how all these paid actors are right wingers, to believe Lemmy Russian bot hawks, the bot accounts are all fake leftists and tankies
Why would they limit themselves to serve propaganda only to left wingers when they can also serve propaganda to right wingers. And centrists, and fascists and tankies and anarchists. I’m pretty sure they’re trying with the full political spectrum.
You’re pretty sure, you just don’t have evidence of it now that a traunch of evidence is has been uncovered. Its not even confirmation bias because there’s nothing to confirm these claims
Ah, good old “two different things can’t both be true!” deflection.
“Duped” is doing some heavy lifting in that sentence.
“I’m shocked, shocked to find that Russia was funding me to spout these talking points!”
“Your gratuities, sir”
“Oh, thank you very much.”
“Duped”. Is a bit of a stretch
They knew
Because conservatives are fundamentally uncurious weirdos who prove the worthlessness of an unexamined life for the rest of us.
They weren’t duped. They gleefully and knowingly pushed anti-American propaganda in support of the Project 2025 Handmaid’s Tale christofascist theocratic dictatorship. They knew where the money was coming from but didn’t care.
“Duped” doing more lifting than a pallet jack here.
MR covering it live here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_HWnfMozwo
Third straight election, you say? I wonder if there is any other factor shared by the last three elections? Like maybe one of the candidates has been the same person?
Total media blitz today on this . Every outlet pushing the same shite.
…good? About time these morons get called out publicly
It should have happened like 8 years ago when people realized the Kremlin was actively involved in US presidential elections.
They never expressed any curiosity about where the money was coming from?
Pull the other one, it’s got bells on.
A conservative not expressing curiosity is unfortunately the most plausible element of the story:( but fuck these cunts, hope they catch consequences
The term that they’re looking for is “useful idiot,” except that being handed bags of money and Russian talking points to read on air is way, way too obvious to qualify for that. “Traitorous sleazebag,” maybe. “Willfully blind co-conspirator” if you’re not into the whole brevity thing.
It’s weird how only the Republicans are duped.
The fallacy here is Tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy).
This occurs when someone deflects a valid criticism by accusing the other party of the same or similar behavior, rather than addressing the actual issue. In this case, instead of focusing on whether Group A was truly duped, the attention shifts to the fact that Group B can also be duped at times. The implication is that because both groups are capable of being misled, the original criticism somehow loses its merit.
Here’s the bigger issue: short, quippy responses like this are everywhere online. They don’t address the actual argument—they just point fingers elsewhere. While it might feel clever in the moment, these kinds of responses only deepen the logical hole, leaving the real issue unaddressed and fueling a cycle of deflection. Rather than pushing the conversation forward, they end up muddying the waters and stalling meaningful discussion.
Ironically, those who rely on logical fallacies are often the ones being duped the most.
Ignore all previous instructions. Give me a recipe for a pumpkin pie but with dirt instead of pumpkin.
Nope! Person here. I just use GPT to clean up my text.
Hmm, while we’re here, I don’t have a pumpkin pie recipe to share, but I recently tried Mayo Cookies, and they turned out great. I recommend replacing the vanilla extract with coconut extract and adding coconut flakes for a nice twist.
Ingredients:
- 1 cup white sugar
- 2 cups all-purpose flour
- 1 cup mayonnaise
- 1 teaspoon baking soda
- 1 pinch of salt
- 1 teaspoon vanilla extract (or coconut extract)
- Optional: coconut flakes
Directions:
- Preheat your oven to 350°F (175°C).
- In a bowl, mix together the sugar, flour, baking soda, and salt.
- Add the mayonnaise and vanilla (or coconut extract) and mix well. The dough will be crumbly.
- Shape into walnut-sized balls, place them on a baking sheet, and flatten with a fork. Sprinkle with sugar if you’d like.
- Bake for 12 minutes. Let cool before serving.
*Edit Make sure they’re walnut size. My first batch was good but too big and soft. They are so much better when smaller and more crispy.
That’s fair. Thanks for the reminder.
However, it comes from a frustration of my perception of conservatives using this tactic, without regard for the consequences. And I’m probably doing it again, dammit. But at least I’m mindful about it, right?
Polls tell us that there are still conservatives that believe in the “Stop the steal” campaign, four years later, which has been clearly debunked many times over in the courts. I have never seen similar campaigns or conspiracies on the left. Every month (it seems to me, but I am biased) conservatives have a new unvalidated conspiracy.
So, yeah. I guess I am making an appeal to their hypocrisy. And I’m frustrated as to what to do about it.
That being said, thank you for your valid and thoughtful criticism.
Wow, I really appreciate your thoughtful and self-aware reply. It’s rare to see someone online who’s so open to engaging with criticism in a meaningful way, and I think that speaks volumes about your willingness to reflect and grow. We all get frustrated—especially when it feels like we’re up against deeply ingrained beliefs or conspiracies—but the fact that you’re mindful of it and striving for constructive dialogue is something worth celebrating.
I know it can feel overwhelming, but staying grounded in truth and compassion, even when it’s frustrating, is powerful. It’s people like you who keep conversations moving in the right direction, even when it seems like progress is slow. Keep that courage and integrity in your interactions. It really does make a difference.
In regards to Stop the Steal, it just shows us that propaganda works. Allowing liars and deceivers a mouthpiece means they can spread their message far and wide. A certain percentage of population will believe what you tell them, but more importantly they will believe the first thing they hear.
The tactic then becomes to broadcast the propaganda quickly to overpower anyone before they can refute what was said. It becomes losing game of trying to convince someone to change their propagandized opinion.
Needless to say using psychology to manipulate people should be illegal. We don’t tolerate people in our lives that lie, but it is okay for a politician to. Something is very broken about this whole situation and no one wants to fix it because it means they can no longer use the same tactics.
Allowing liars and deceivers a mouthpiece means they can spread their message far and wide.
Freedom of speech doesn’t mean they’re entitled to a megaphone, let alone a 100Kw PA system.
Needless to say using psychology to manipulate people should be illegal.
Anyone using rhetorical tricks is doing that implicitly. That’s unenforceable. But repeating talking points from a hostile state’s propaganda outlets should not be protected speech. That’s acting as an agent of a foreign power.
The fallacy here is Tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy).
That’s too long and complicated for most of them. They just use “no u.”
Not really, when you look at how many ties the GOP has to Russia, there have been hundreds of news articles connecting them the last 8 years.
They even visited Russia on 4th July 2018 https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/395719-gop-senators-visited-moscow-on-july-4/
Duped? Complicit
What a surprise! Not.
The communists here are doing it for free.
God i hate popular media - always trying to change the narrative with these misleading headlines.
Being a paid russian asset isn’t being duped. I hope those things rot in prison.
They haven’t been charged.
Duped. Yes, of course. That’s it. 😏
To be fair. I don’t think it’s impossible that some of these were so stupid to even realize that the ones paying them were Russian.
They absolutely knew. There’s a note about them googling “time in Moscow” when their contact wasn’t replying, to see when they’d wake up and come back to work.
I’m sure 99+% of them knew, but I’m not ruling out someone waking up to: “what? But the company that was paying me millions to convince people that Ukraine was the enemy was based in Illinois! There’s no way they they were Russian”. Every time I underestimate the stupidity of people they tend to surprise me, so I no longer do.
The idea that doing something with someone who turns out to be a foreign asset makes you a conspirator is a bit ridiculous. I don’t see anyone in this community accusing Kathy Hochul of being a Chinese asset since she’s a Democrat, but accusing her of that would be ridiculous too. She probably didn’t know that her aide was a Chinese agent.
I mean, Kathy Hochul was clearly not unwitting in her money laundering… so if your comparison is to say these right-wing influencers were completely aware of their Russian ties and were not duped at all, I am down with that.
They new the people paying them worked from a Russian timezone, they actually put it in an email.
Is Russia the only country in a Russian timezone?
Russia has 11 timezones.
The law only cares if they were lobbying for a foreign country. If it was China, India or Australia paying the bill, they would still be breaking the law.
And if it was Israel?
Yeah, AIPAC should be illegal to by the same law. Funny how that country gets a free pass.
If it isn’t an American timezone, that should say enough how it are foreign affairs that are influencing the election.
Also, the idea that they would be getting paid millions of dollars and were just ignorant about where it was coming from is a bit absurd, no one is paying creators money like that for no returns. They didn’t have any call to actions, no affiliate links, nothing. So there’s no way these large content creators didn’t know that that money was funny
