• jared@mander.xyz
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    11 days ago

    I wanna hear everyone’s fight music! I’ve been leaning on RTJ the last few days.

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      11 days ago

      Dead Prez been radical and vocal about social and political issues since long before everyone else got there. Music is probably dated by now but their messages have always been consistent and they are very applicable today.

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      From old timey union fight songs (ex Workers of the world, Awaken) to protest rock. The Swedish band Nationalteatern have a great banger “Staten och Kapitalet” about that the state and the capital sit in the same boat, but it is not those who row and the whip does not lick their fat necks.

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        I’ve been loving the old Pete Seeger, Woody Guthrie, Phil Ochs, Billy Bragg, and Barbara Dane

        This music just hits so hard

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      11 days ago

      Propaghandi is a big one for me since they’re from my city, but also Dead Kennedys, NoFX, Stray From the Path, Jeff Rosenstock

      Edit:

      I have more 😈:

      • John K. Samson/The Weakerthans
      • Nick Shoulders
      • Jesse Welles
      • The Narcissist Cookbook
      • Jason Isbell
      • John Prine
      • Woody Guthrie
      • The Coup
      • Larry and his Flask
      • Jordan Smart
      • Phil Ochs
      • Watchhouse
      • Warren Zevon
      • Elvis Costello
      • The Orphans
      • Mischief Brew
      • The Tillers
      • Country Joe McDonald
      • Barbara Dane
      • They Might be Giants
      • David Rovics

      Sorry, music and finding it is a special interest.

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      11 days ago

      Probably a lot of obvious choices on here, but I like to think of it as honoring the classics of the genre, and hopefully there are a few entries which are new to folks.

      • Crime Mob - Knuck if You Buck (this goes at the start of the playlist, because, in my experience, playing this to a crowd of significant size will result in hands being thrown somewhere, it is a statistical inevitability)
      • Godsmack - I Stand Alone
      • Pantera - Walk Phil Anselmo is a Nazi shit weasel and I was unaware.
      • Limp Bizkit - Rollin
      • Rage Against the Machine - Fistful of Steel
      • Lil Wayne ft Eminem- Drop the World
      • CKY - 96 Quite Bitter Beings
      • DMX - X Gon Give It To Ya
      • Ludacris - Get Back
      • KMFDM - Free Your Hate
      • Aesop Rock - None Shall Pass
      • Powerman 5000 - When Worlds Collide
      • Static-X - Push It
      • DJ Shadow ft Run the Jewels - Nobody Speak
      • Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
      • Slipknot - People=Shit
      • Slayer - Raining Blood
      • Holy Fuck - Tom Tom
      • Danzig - Mother
      • Queens of the Stone Age - You Think I Ain’t Worth a Dollar, But I Feel Like A Millionaire (gotta find an edit without the intro tho)
      • Mastodon - Blood and Thunder
      • Mïngle Härder (formerly Möngöl Hörde) - Blistering Blue Barnacles

      Two nautical themed metal/hardcore songs which get me ready to tussle isn’t a lot, but it is weird that it happened twice.

      • Rise Against - State of the Union
      • Coheed and Cambria - Key Entity Extraction V: Sentry the Defiant (with honorable mention to In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth:3 and Welcome Home)
      • Chevelle - The Red
      • Bullet For My Valentine - Waking the Demon
      • Eve 6 - Think Twice
      • Hole - Violet
      • Dead Kennedys - Nazi Punks Fuck Off
      • Smashing Pumpkins - Bullet With Butterfly Winds

      That seems like enough brainstorming for now. Hope someone finds something they vibe with.

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        11 days ago

        I’ve known about KMFDM for a long time but discovered Free Your Hate about this time in 2017, it’s too bad it’s that relevant again but at least we’ve got some good Nazi-punching music.

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          In all honesty, I have no idea how I came across that song. Despite some of the other selections that are also in that mold, industrial metal isn’t actually a genre I fuck with that much. I’m open to it, especially as I’ve continued to get comfortable in some of the less melodic subgenres, but the actual wave of popularity these bands were riding on missed me as a kid and ive come to it later.

          I assume that it must have been included in a video game soundtrack of some kind? In fact, as I’ve been writing this comment, I think it may have been a part of the Brutal Legend soundtrack, and I had all of that stuff on my iPod at the time.

          Song do go pretty hard tho, don’t it?

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            It really does. And I do think it was on the Brutal Legend soundtrack. I know it because I’m just old enough to remember that sort of stuff back in the 90s when it was big.

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              Do you have other recommendations from their catalog? This is the only track of there’s I think I’ve listened to.

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                If you like the aggressive energy of that song, other ones like that are WWIII; Bullets, Bombs, and Bigotry; Paradise; and KMF. They have a shitload of music but that’s what I can think of off the top of my head.

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        When I was a Republican I saw this talking point come up a lot and sadly I used to buy into it. Basically GOPers attack RATM by claiming they are actually part of the machine and justify their argument by saying other people such as outspoken actors in Hollywood have the same politics and that they charge high ticket prices and use services such as Ticketmaster, perform at large venues and associated with Sony Music (through Epic Records).

        Reflecting on this it’s not a good argument. In life things are not perfect so while they may be doing things like using Ticketmaster they are still doing a lot of good things and working towards a more fair and equitable society, perhaps one day in part due to their music motivating and encouraging people to elect more progressive people Ticketmaster will be regulated or broken up.

        It’s surprising to me to see the same talking points I’m familiar with come not from the right but come from the left because you and RATM likely have a lot in common when it comes to political stances. For example I’m sure you and RATM are both against police brutality. Even if Sony manufactures RATM’s CDs isn’t it a lot better that someone has RATM playing in their car instead of whatever right wing talk show trash is playing on Clear Channel-owned stations (now called iheartmedia)?

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    Sigh… I miss the days when Rage Against The Machine focused on music and wasn’t political.

    Tap for spoiler

    I feel obligated to say this is sarcasm, just because of the way things are. (There are actually some people who said this to Tom on Xitter lmao.)

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      Stupid conservatives think, “fuck you, I won’t do what you tell me,” is speaking to them. Your spoiler / deflection is absolutely necessary. There are a lot of people who don’t understand what they take in.

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      I know right! The band didn’t start getting political until 1991.

      spoiler

      The band was founded in 1991.

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        10 days ago

        Diesel, bear spray, propane, and gasoline don’t care if you’re wearing a bulletproof vest.

        Just pointing that out in case it becomes relevant.

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    The only viable solution when Nazis take control of government is violence. There is no reasoning with them, they are not logical.

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      This is correct, and also, Nazis don’t care about good faith argumentation. They’re explicitly anti-liberal (as in, liberty, freedom) and will only pretend to have these values to try and point out an apparent contradiction (“You believe in rights to speech and democracy, so why are you censoring us?”)

      In this video of former white supremacists talking about how they left the ideology, one brings up that on their Nazi website, it was normal and common to argue for points they knew were garbage, like the Great Replacement theory. It’s about power and results, not liberalist idealism.

      Violent methods usually aren’t the preferred way of dealing with Nazis (because it’s harder to get a mass movement to join in and support it, and because it’s riskier, legally, which makes it harder to sustain), but it works. It broke up the BUF in Britain, it’s kept the local turds scared to show their faces or reveal their true thoughts (don’t worry, they still usually get revealed by researchers anyway). Violence works. They know it and we know it. But when they’re the government, their violence is now legal.

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        these values to try and point out an apparent contradiction (“You believe in rights to speech and democracy, so why are you censoring us?”)

        Nazis want to take that freedom

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          Of course, but it’s there now and they’re happy to abuse it. Call them hypocrites all you want, they couldn’t care less.

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    11 days ago

    Saw him play recently in Alabama. They were selling this phrase on a shirt. Much to my surprise, that shirt was sold out by the time I went to pick it up. I was pleasantly shocked.