This is dumb, you can do America First policies and have FDR-type socialism, or Nordic model policies, together. American permanent residents and citizens should get benefits they pay for via their taxes. Simple.
It is dumb, as long as your goal is to be as rich as possible and not be as powerful as possible
You will generate better profit from a rich population; they’ll also advocate for your business if you openly support their ascension, and you’d lose nothing in profits by doing so
But you do lose power. Power over people, and the benefit of doubt that the government won’t strike down on you if you appease, and the people will have more important shit to focus on now that their benefits are gone
Both parties did this, republicans can do it more outwardly without causing a split in parties
Socialism for the Rich. Rugged individualism for the Poor.
almost as if it were billionaires working for the benefit of other billionaires…
LMFAO, WHAT BENEFITS?!?!?
While I agree the US does a fraction of what they could: Social Security
Medicare
Medicaid
WIC
HUD
ESG
COC
Department of Education
The list goes on and on. If you think there aren’t a LOT of social programs that they can cut, you are in for a very, very rough time.
Buddy, I’m being sarcastic here. I KNOW they’re gonna destroy tons of public services like that. The cruelty is the point.
Hmm interesting how all the efficiency that they are introducing requires cutting benefits. Almost as if they were pleasing the 1% or something.
If you slash OUR services, then you slash OUR taxes. You want to save the rich money, stop spending their taxes on bombs to rip the legs of little kids in Palestine, you ain’t spending my money on propping up their system, you’re using my money to help US citizens first. I’ll set an appointment with the cheese turd, might execute his secret service first just so he fuckibg listens for once. Also it’s not illegal to threaten secret service like it is the president. Hi secret service guy, I look forward to beating you to death so I can get to your boss for a genuine conversation where he realizes he is not all that powerful without you idiots pointing guns for him. See you soon shit squat.
The country already has too many homeless, this would make it worse.
Why would you be homeless when you could just
perform slave laborgrow organic lettuce on aisolated off-the-gridtech-freecampfarm in Kansas?That’s the plan for people “addicted” to (prescribed) amphetamines and ssri’s, right? What is that, like, 1 in 3 millennials? (no shade I’m in that group)
Why not
sendoffer the homeless to go there too, if it’s so great?
Don’t forget the new tax plan also includes tax increases for us plebs too!
Cut benefits, increase payments! Good job Magoos!
But the price for food is down… It is, right?
National sales tax incoming.
Don’t start giving Mango Mussolini any ideas.
What do you think Tariffs are? It’s the Trump Sales Tax.
Oh they’ve been proposing that for years.
Oh I know, just making jokes to compensate for the crushingly depressive state of things.
cutting taxes for the wealthy could risk damaging the populist image that Trump has cultivated.
It’s never seemed to damage his image with his supporters before. He could hold them down and shit into their mouths and they’d find a reason to think it was an ok thing to do
He wouldn’t need to hold them down. They would be lining up for it.
Many of his supporters don’t consider themselves poor or middle-class, they consider themselves pre-millionaires.
When I was a kid, I was told that “The American Dream” was a house and two cars. At some point along the way, that morphed into “anyone can be a millionaire.”
That’s because in many places you need to be a millionaire to get that two story ranch style house and 2 cars made in the last 5 years.
Have it. Don’t want it. New American dream is to be able to fuck off in the woods for weeks at a time, and still have medical care.
Probably about the time it started taking a million dollars to comfortably maintain a house and two cars…
He’s feeding the poor!!
To the rich. 🫤
Let them eat eggs.
I knew this would happen and loads of people on lemmy accused me of “fearmongering” or “only caring about myself” when I said I’d vote Harris
With me, at least, they have moved on to, “you care more about your gay daughter than Palestinians!” Which… yeah. That’s called parenting. Along with, “why are you worried about a queer genocide that hasn’t happened yet?!” Because I don’t want to chance it? People can be such assholes.
It’s like yeah.
If both candidates mean gaza is fucked, but one of them means hundreds of thousands of extra unnecessary deaths to disabled people, homeless people, migrants, poor people, queer and trans people etc.
Of fucking course I’ll pick the least bad option instead of being apathetic about it. Especially since I’m a disabled poor person who has had bouts of homelessness.
These same people do not seem to understand that “least bad option” does not mean “good option.” Some of them are now justifying it by saying Harris supports genocide but all Trump supports is ethnic cleansing. Seriously.
I have always taken the advice of W.C. Fields: “I never vote for, only against.” Because there has never been a politician in my adult life that I would have voted for in a general presidential election. Or even a senatorial election,
Same. I’m an anarchist. I don’t believe in this distorted liberal democratic system that seems to benefit the elite no matter the outcome.
But I sure as hell am going to exercise my right to vote. It being a shitty system where I have little power doesn’t mean I should throw away the power I do have!
“Kamala Harris is not the perfect progressive candidate in every way. How can I possibly vote for her? I’ll sit this one out. That’ll show 'em!”
I voted for her because she was the lesser evil, but describing her as just “not the perfect progressive candidate in every way” is a gross misrepresentation. She was probably the most right leaning Democratic candidate to run in a general election and was openly adopting many of the Republican stances. There were basically two Republicans running.
Single issue voters are the reason the USA is now a dictatorship building concentration camps. That’s not an opinion.
There were basically two Republicans running.
Fucking absurd. There is a reason you don’t name one specific
Really? She was to the right of the Clintons? Obama? John Kerry, even? I think you have a selective memory.
People need to accept that the electoral system in the US is just a trolley problem at the end of the day unfortunately.
Basically, and people let ‘the enemy of perfect get in the way of good enough’. Progress is incremental unfortunately. That’s just how it is. We can accept that, or we get this crap.
not really close to ‘good enough’ but least bad
This is exactly the fucking problem, if it’s not perfect enough then people allow it to get worse instead.
The only way a political party changes is when they stop winning.
If Democrats think they will win by being Republicans who hate the gays a little bit less, then that is what they’ll do. They were just shown that that isn’t a winning strategy, so we’ll see if the party changes tack or doubles down.
“You monster, it is your fault you gave us Trump”
I make my voting preferences known in every primary, state, and federal election. I actively volunteer for candidates I like. The party knows what will earn my vote, if they wanted it. If they make the strategic bet that getting my vote will cost them more from somewhere else, then that is on them.
“That is so entitled, how could you”
Have you ever considered that the reason both parties seem so out of touch with mainstream thought is because they have 10s of millions of people who will vote regardless of policy, thereby preventing the parties from understanding what is actually effective in getting them votes?
Elections are an information gathering mechanism.
You seem to think there will be real elections again rather than the type they have in Russia now that Republicans control all three branches of government.
I’m not sure why. Do you think they will ever willingly give up power?
At this point the trolley problem is "would you like to vote for killing 1000 per year for the next four years or would you like to vote for killing 4000 people this year with the hope that maybe it’ll cause the whole trolley system to self destruct…? (The numbers are purely illustrative).
Edit: apparently it’s not obvious that I think these are both horrible options, and I voted for the limping painfully along for an extended period.
That isn’t how trolleys work.
At least you’re honest about this half-baked excuse for a plan
Making things worse based on the idiotic hope that it might somehow magically spark things to get better is the absolute dumbest fucking idea one can have.
If by “trolley system to self-destruct” you mean violent revolution and a new system of government imperfect in a completely different way, yes. Good luck with the wait.
That’s exactly what I mean, and I agree that it sounds awful. It’s like people go into these conversations deciding which side the other person is on based on which they can argue the most with.
That’s nuts. “Only voting for yourself” is usually a trump vote. Generally, a Left-wing voter asks “What’s best for everyone?” and a Right-wing voter asks “What’s best for me?”
Of course, the Democrat party isn’t left-wing (more like middle-right) but still, it’s a far less selfish vote than trump.
I don’t know about your life, but my life is made better by the acceptance and participation of all sorts of people. I’m selfishly voting for Democrats because I have 4 daughter and a gay son.
My wife and I make enough money and I could be happy on less if it improved the environment around me by improving the lives of the people I share the world with. Those brown people would be a hell of a lot less scary to us white people if so many of them weren’t in desperate financial straits, and if we didn’t teach them to expect hatred and cruelty from us.
I’m a selfish-as-fuck-left-wing-voter.
Amen brother, a rising tide raises all ships
