Hilarious considering they are reddit refugees explicitly because of capitalism and the insatisble greed it stokes.
Honestly, if I was a capitalism defender, I’d go to Threads to be monetized by Zuck, but since I know zuck is a capitalist I know any niceties provided today will be pay/ad walled if the platform becomes popular the next time Zuck wants to stoke his quarterly growth/metastasis estimates.
There is no safe harbor to be had putting your faith in capitalists, only exploitation in the name of sociopathic, unquenchable greed. It’s never enough, and when the chips are down and you participate, it will be taken out of your ass sooner or later.
It would be lovely if the capitalism cheerleaders could learn this through experience, but they never seem to, even after getting their ass kicked by it. Unless you hold significant capital (if you have to ask how much you need, you are not), you are not a capitalist, you are the capitalist’s livestock.
This has less to do with liking capitalism than it does with self-avowed communists on the internet being insufferable.
Oh no, the open source community who worked together to create a great ecosystem for free and fto the benefit of all, in the face of data greedy capitalists are commies!
Save me from these sexy FOSS anticapitalists
It’s one thing to be a communist; it’s another to be an apologist for the CCP.
I’m having an easier time arguing with tankies then I did with right wingers. Right wingers don’t even believe themselves, so they shift the goal posts around to suit their needs.
Fuck China, and fuck the United States I live in. The nations of the Nordic region and a few other developed nations have my respect because they respect and value their citizenry. Their economy is a tool that is used to facilitate the distribution of goods and services for the benefit of their society and its citizens, what an economy is supposed to be, instead of doing it ass backwards as we do, hurting citizens to protect the beloved fucking economy and the growth/metastasis expectations of the owner class.
China/The US/Russia are the world leaders in exporting the notion that their citizens should be exploited to stoke the growth of the economy for the benefit of their respective elites. Whoever wins, their people lose.
Why should I go rah rah America when most stakeholders in our society are not meaningful institutional shareholders in the value society produces?
It shouldn’t be about saying simon says or coming out of a rich vagina or if not making perfect economic decisions and kissing ass from age 18, begging to be included and killing yourself for masters who were born into wealth for a small chance of being included in the prosperity of the prosperous nation you’re supposedly a member of.
And don’t you just love the class traitors here that come out to celebrate the failures of citizens who tried? oh you took out student loans in a subject that in hindsight didn’t pay dividends, haha loser. Oh you just started working and didnt get an education and are stuck in the underclass, haha loser. That’s what it means to be an American, rooting against one another as the owner class laughs.
I’m someone still recovering from republican/libertarian capitalist brainwashing. Would you know of a good book or two on this subject? It’s fascinating to me.
People on lemmy.ml thinking we just really enjoy Mali.
It’s actually been super refreshing to, generally, be able to say I am a Marxist-Leninist and not immediately get downvoted into oblivion. There are still some of the kneejerk reactions to the CPC, but even then people seem more willing to engage on good-faith even with disagreements.
be able to say I am a Marxist-Leninist
CPC
I think those two things are not the same and quite incompatible. Modern China is a capitalist hellscape, certainly not the communist utopia Marx had in mind. They have one of the highest levels of wealth disparity in the world and the highest number of billionaires, even more than the US.
I fully believe that Marx would be horrified if he saw modern China.
Theres is a lot of nuance to that argument. Even Marx agreed that a capital stage is a necessary step on the way to communism. That’s the whole dialect part of dialect materialism. Each step of the ladder has to be walked through and past as it becomes obsolete.
I think he meant that it was necessary when going from a capitalist society to a communist society. China went from a rural society to a communist society to a capitalist society.
To be honest, nothing against that, it’s obvious to me that communism as applied by the USSR or Mao or the Kims does not really work and the people really suffered for that, but if you do believe in the communist tenants, then China and Russia are as far away from that as you can possibly get.
It’s always the people who haven’t read Marx who say this.
Where’s your source on wealth disparities and number of billionaires? I see this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_billionaires (make sure you’re sorting by per capita)
I guess they haven’t discovered the button to block communities?
My feed is quite nice after blocking the stuff that doesn’t appeal to me.
Same. Block is a key feature. That said, I’m actually fascinated at how many furry communities there are. You’d think blocking c/furry would take care of 90% of the problem, but who knew c/MidCenturyYiffsOnAnEamesChair had such a dedicated following.
Zoomers gonna zoom
E: Apparently zoomers can’t take a joke. Get over yourselves nerds
There are a lot of commies here. I don’t particularly like them but that is there right and lemmy is not and should not be pro-censorship. If somepeople don’t like them they should find an instance that suits you better.
There are alot of people who are pissed off about the current system here. Makes sense, since these would be the people who are willing to push through the growing pains of the fediverse to remove themselves from corporate centralized sites.
For example, I’m not necessarily a communist, since I am not convinced it’s the best alternative to our version of capitalism in America; but I will agree with the communists when they say we need to replace our broken system with something better.
I agree too. The problem is many communist are actually Russian propagandists. There, they “really” think communism is a viable option. But openly discussing this stuff without bias? That would be awesome. Also probably not happening
Ironically, Russia doesn’t even follow communist ideals. They are communist in name only.
