• Xi Jinping accused the US of trying to trick China into invading Taiwan, the Financial Times said.
  • The Chinese leader made the claim to European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, per the FT.
  • One expert told BI it’s a sign that China is “genuinely surprised” by the attitude of US officials.

For decades, the US has adopted “strategic ambiguity” toward Taiwan, positioning itself as the country’s most steadfast ally, while declining to explicitly say whether it would come to Taiwan’s aid if China attacked.

But the mood in Washington, DC, seems to be shifting, with Congress showing itself more “overtly supportive of Taiwan than only a few years ago,” Graeme Thompson, an analyst with the Eurasia Group, told Business Insider in November.

The US has plenty of public figures now talking of Taiwan like it is a new Ukraine, and some even saying it needs to be diplomatically recognized,” Brown added.

  • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I don’t think he believes what he says for the reasons hes claiming. I think if he’s really set on not invading it’s because hes seen how poorly its working for Russia. China wants Taiwans economy, you cant get that if Taiwan looks like Ukraine before you even get control.

    If Xi is being serious it’s probably because he’s realizing he needs to take Taiwan through economic and diplomatic, and probably clandestine diplomatic means. Weather he has a plan for that remains to be seen.

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      Given Russia’s performance in Ukraine, Iran firing 5% of its total stockpile at Israel and having almost nothing get through modern American air defense, and China’s own review of military readiness that showed glaring flaws and corruption, any plans China may have had to invade Taiwan should be postponed indefinitely.

      Turning local elections in Taiwan in China’s favor in the long term seems like the more viable alternative for reunification.

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        My thoughts exactly. Probably tougher than HK but similar playbook, my guess is a slow long term approach would be the most likely to succeed.

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          So they opposite of HK where they rushed in and fucked the whole thing up so badly they lost any chance of ever convincing Taiwan?

          China can’t operate on long time frames, they’re too beholden to the whims of whatever prima donna is chairman.

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        True, even without reunification (what’s for?), China gets more by economical means than it would ever has via invasion. It’s insane production capacity, belt&road schemes, education and science are a caricature of a suntzian wise guy who wins a war without a battle. Reducing themselves to a war (and probably destroying everything they are jealous of in Taiwan in the process) would be embarassingly stupid. I watch their sabblerattling as a play, but I’m yet to see any benefit from it besides upkeeping the status of those not to fuck with.

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      He’ll take it through political means, by running candidates that support his regime. Then he will put an end to democracy there. Kind of like Hong Kong.

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      he’s realizing he needs to take Taiwan through economic and diplomatic, and probably clandestine diplomatic means

      Add in psyops programs. They have been a resounding success against UK and the US for Putin.

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      And Russia is able to cart in supplies by road and rail. If anything Ukraine is also showing that supply across a 100+ miles of sea will be nearly impossible. The navy does not have to control the waters, they just need to deny the Chinese access to it and that is much easier.

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      use the term invasion is if the place is outside the borders of your country.

      The land of the Uyghurs which is called Xinjiang literally means “New Frontier.” Even through language, it’s obvious this land does not “fit” with the rest of China but it does not stop the Chinese government considering it their own land. (FYI the Uyghurs are a Turkic people while most of China speaks Sino-Tibetan Languages).

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        thats not formal usage though its more like slang and would not be used by political figures in public…oh yeah. its nowadays. dumpsterfire and all. yeah. you have a point.

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    It’s wild that the US is trying to escalate tensions with China when it’s still busy with Russia.

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    while declining to explicitly say whether it would come to Taiwan’s aid if China attacked.

    “You didn’t want to get involved in the Ukraine conflict militarily for obvious reasons,” a reporter said to Mr. Biden. “Are you willing to get involved militarily to defend Taiwan if it comes to that?”

    “Yes,” Mr. Biden answered flatly.

    “You are?” the reporter followed up.

    “That’s the commitment we made,” he said.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/23/world/asia/biden-taiwan-china.html

    Sounds more like someone came to their senses but tries to save face…hopefully. You never know if this is just a strategic move to make others believe they won’t attack.

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    It’s not a trap, because they were warned beforehand about what would happen if you did it. It’s a dare, like in “Jackass!”.

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    We’re not starting WWIII over TSMC and nVidia’s stock price.

    Shit, most of the world won’t even recognise Taiwan as a country. I can hardly see Haiti, Paraguay and the Vatican coming to the rescue.

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      pfft no, but we will fulfill our treaty obligations to the 24 million people who don’t deserve china’s bullshit.

      TSMC has kill switches installed already. China would only get a pile of slag if they tried it. and they won’t.

      What China should do is reassess the Treaty of Aigun - does it still really apply, considering today’s russians are neither the soviet block nor the russian empire? The areas in question are overwhelmingly asian in demographics. There’s a whole lot of resources up there just sitting around because russia’s never been able to chew bubble gum and walk at the same time, much less persecute a pointless, losing war while exploiting it’s own resources.

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        pfft no, but we will fulfill our treaty obligations to the 24 million people who don’t deserve china’s bullshit

        I’ve got a bridge in New York for sale. It’s in Brooklyn. You could charge tolls and make billions! HMU.

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          I’ve got a bridge in New York for sale. It’s in Brooklyn. You could charge tolls and make billions! HMU.

          sure thing kiddo. blah blah blah.

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      Shit, most of the world won’t even recognise Taiwan as a country.

      The thing the article seems to neglect. China is winning the diplomatic game globally. Taiwan is less well recognized than Palestine.

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    He knows China doesn’t have the capability to invade Taiwan, but needs to save face. So… the evil foreigners are trying to trick us, but I’m too smart to fall for their tricks!

    Fascist propaganda 101, always blame the foreigners for everything.

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      Well it has the capability of trying. It would end up costing them insanely more than it could possibly gain, but still.

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        Xi needs to keep people thinking he’s the strongman that’s protecting China from the evil foreigners. If he tries to invade Taiwan and fails (the most likely outcome) he appears weak and it’s over for him.

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      He knows China doesn’t have the capability to invade Taiwan

      Large scale ground invasions are generally a losing game.

      But the Chinese strategy towards Taiwan has always been the same strategy as Hong Kong, Tibet, and Mongolia. Become economically invaluable and set policy through soft power.

      The only real incentive to send in ground troops would be to respond to a Cuba Missile style escalation. And it no longer looks like the Americans are interested in installing short range missiles on the island, now that they have exhausted themselves arming Ukraine.

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    Oh no. Xi saw through our dastardly reverse psychology. Now we have no choice but to watch him not invade our ally. How horrific.

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      And the Russians where also very vocal about not invading Ukraine right up to the moment that they did. So what I’m trying to say is “talk is cheap”.

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      Given the economic imperialist policies Chinese Communist Party in South America and Africa, let alone the lack of democratic institutions when compared to Taiwan, the CCP’s interest in Taiwan has far less to do with ‘liberating’ it than taking control of its substantial economic base.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Chinese leader Xi Jinping has accused the US of trying to trick China into invading Taiwan, but he said it won’t take the bait, the Financial Times reported, citing people familiar with the matter.

    According to the FT, Xi made the accusation during a meeting with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen in April last year.

    Xi has issued the same warning to officials in his own country, one source told the FT, but this would be the first time he made the claim to a foreign leader, the outlet said.

    But the mood in Washington, DC, seems to be shifting, with Congress showing itself more “overtly supportive of Taiwan than only a few years ago,” Graeme Thomson, an analyst with the Eurasia Group, told BI in November.

    Last month, a US congressional delegation met with senior Taiwanese officials to discuss US-Taiwan relations, a few days after China conducted military drills around the island.

    During a meeting in April, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi warned US Secretary of State Antony Blinken not to cross China’s “red lines” on sovereignty, security, and development interests.


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