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grocery store food is now a luxury too
sure voting Trump or Biden will fix it depending on what color you like
When FDR created the minimum wage he explicitly stated that someone making it should be able to live in some comfort. That meant not just food and shelter, but some savings and a chance to have a few nice things.
In 1960, minimum wage was $1.00/hour. The average house was $11,000.00. Two people could eat and go to a concert for $5.00. In those days, $1 million was an incredible fortune.
The wages of fast food workers have been increasing over the past decade. Ten years ago, their median wage was $8.69/hr. Today, it’s over $14/hr. In California, the minimum is now $20/hr.
Increased wages for low income workers are good, since they have outpaced inflation. But they will inevitably result in increased prices. It’s unrealistic to expect the employer to absorb all of the increased costs.
And fast food employers often couldn’t absorb the wage increases even if they wanted to. Remember, a McDonald’s employee isn’t paid by McDonald’s HQ, they are paid by the person who runs the individual location, who is also paying McDonald’s HQ for ingredients. Some of the franchise owners are doing well, some of them aren’t, but all of them are going to raise prices.
In other words, if you don’t want to pay more for fast food, then you don’t actually want to see fast food workers earn a better wage.
In other words, if you don’t want to pay more for fast food, then you don’t actually want to see fast food workers earn a better wage.
If a business relies on exploitation, it shouldn’t exist. If paying the workers a living wage means raising the prices beyond a sustainable level for the business, this business shouldn’t exist. If a business pays out millions in bonuses to it’s executives while the workers are relying on government subsidies, the business shouldn’t exist.
That’s true. But restaurant owners aren’t paying millions to anyone.
And hiking prices to pay fast food employees more isn’t unsustainable. It just means customers won’t eat fast food as often as they used to.
I’m happy to say that I emphatically want better wages for service industry workers. IDC how much food goes up, or how many mega franchises have to close for it. Either better wages, or cause these these super franchises to close so mom and pops and open instead.
I also don’t think it’s unrealistic to expect businesses to give up a small portion of their infinite growth targets to actually cover their employees needs. Maybe a large departure from the past 50 years, but it’s absolutely something most of them can afford.
If a business genuinely can’t afford it, then I’d also be okay with my tax money going towards a business analysis for that owner to find a way to make it work. If they still can’t, then how long were they really going to be open anyway and what were they really adding to their community?
unrealistic to expect businesses to give up a small portion of their infinite growth targets
Almost no restaurants, including fast food restaurants, have infinite growth targets. A lot of them are struggling to survive.
From a business perspective, most fast food franchises are mom-and-pop locations. They are not owned by a giant corporation. The giant corporation simply sells them ingredients and sets their menu.
That’s out of date.
Median fast food wage in US is now $14/hr. A Big Mac in Denmark is now 49 krone, which is $7.10
Of course, it’s still true that unions provide better pay and benefits to employees. But the price of a Big Mac is roughly a third of the hourly wage in both the US and Denmark.
How much of the increased price of fast food is because restaurants have to pay workers more than $7.25/hour now? It seems like the entire business model of cheap fast food was premised on low-quality food and labor costs so low that most fast-food workers qualified for public assistance. Leaving aside the low-quality oligarchical food product industry and just looking at the labor side, it’s still a failure. And a business model that relies on food stamps and welfare for its employees really isn’t a business model.
From the article - they believe eating fast food should be cheaper than eating at home, but isn’t. What kind of fucked up belief is this? No wonder they view fast food as a luxury.
Fucked up? It’s not a matter of what “should be.” It was reality for decades. When were you born?
When I was growing up dominos did the “5-5-5” deal. $15+tax for 3 medium 1-topping pizzas. You can feed like 6-10 people with that depending on their age. You’re talking like $2 a person.
$1 menus included 1-2 sandwich options. Usually a chicken sandwich (obviously fried not grilled).
Meals with fries and drinks were $4-6 all in.
This was the 90’s and 2000’s. You could feed a family of 4 with $10 or less without much thought.
No it wasn’t, a frozen pizza was always cheaper than dominos. And I don’t know what kind of little only eat one third of a medium pizza.
I usually finished one myself. Well okay, I’m a big man, but still.
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So when you said it feeds 6 to 10 people, you meant 6 to 10 children? Lol
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I definitely get the appeal of fast food. It might also depend on what a “Medium” pizza is.
6 people for 3 medium pizzas doesn’t seem too bad, especially if there’s other snacks or food. But if I had 10 people with 3 medium pizzas, I think I’d have 10 hungry people and 0 pizzas left, haha
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It was possible to feed people for less than $1/serving then. Fast food has always been more expensive than home cooking on a per serving basis.
