Louisiana has become the first state to require that the Ten Commandments be displayed in every public school classroom under a bill signed into law by Republican Gov. Jeff Landry on Wednesday.

The GOP-drafted legislation mandates that a poster-sized display of the Ten Commandments in “large, easily readable font” be required in all public classrooms, from kindergarten to state-funded universities. Although the bill did not receive final approval from Landry, the time for gubernatorial action — to sign or veto the bill — has lapsed.

Opponents question the law’s constitutionality, warning that lawsuits are likely to follow. Proponents say the purpose of the measure is not solely religious, but that it has historical significance. In the law’s language, the Ten Commandments are described as “foundational documents of our state and national government.

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    “If you want to respect the rule of law, you’ve got to start from the original lawgiver, which was Moses”

    Bollocks, more like.

    The earliest known laws are from The Code of Ur-Nammu from Mesopotamia written on tablets around  2100–2050 BCE. If Moses existed, he was probably chiselling away at his tables six or seven hundred years later.

    So I demand that these laws replace the 10 Commandments in schools. Who could forget such classics as:

    • If a prospective son-in-law enters the house of his prospective father-in-law, but his father-in-law later gives his daughter to another man, the father-in-law shall return to the rejected son-in-law twofold the amount of bridal presents he had brought.
    • If a man’s slave-woman, comparing herself to her mistress, speaks insolently to her, her mouth shall be scoured with 1 quart of salt.
    • If a man, in the course of a scuffle, smashed the limb of another man with a club, he shall pay one mina of silver.
    • If a man stealthily cultivates the field of another man and he raises a complaint, this is however to be rejected, and this man will lose his expenses.
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    I can’t read it atm. Is there a size requirement?

    Language requirement?

    Does it HAVE to be readable?

    Cause woo are my malicious compliance human mandibles quivering.

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        historically they’re in hebrew, not english and the hebrew version is inarguably both more historical and more accurate

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      " a poster-sized display of the Ten Commandments in “large, easily readable font” in all public classrooms, from kindergarten to state-funded universities. "

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    I’m so sick and tired Of these Christophascist Trying to force their pedophile religion on me and my kids.

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    the Ten Commandments are described as “foundational documents of our state and national government.

    Jefferson must be rolling in his grave so fast that he could power the whole east coast. Bunch of uneducated goons.

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      Bunch of uneducated goons.

      Oh, they know they’re lying, they just want to lie so much they bury the truth re-write the past (which is kinda ironic if you think about it, given that whole eight commandment). It’s kinda the same way the “Lost Cause of the Confederacy” is embedded into American mythology despite being a after-the-fact whitewashing of history.

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        No one challenged the law makers to prove that they were right. They are lying because they can get away with it - no one in any position of power asked or was asked which foundational document was forged by forefathers from Christian (or any religion) doctrine.

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      6 and 8 are the only ones that are laws, and those are just common sense shit, don’t murder or steal. The first 4 are telling you what god to worship and how, which are explicitly the opposite of what a government is built on.

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      I’d love for them to point to where it suggests that in either the federal or state constitutions.

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        TST is not a super great org unfortunately. They do stuff for great headlines but apparently little in the way of effective advocacy. I’ve also heard that there are pretty bad issues with misogyny among the upper echelons. While it’s extremely long at 2hrs, Dead Domain’s video on the subject goes into great detail.

        It’s really unfortunate, I wanted to believe they were fighting the good fight but I don’t know if I can in good conscience anymore

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            … it’s not really an opinion piece? It’s mostly a breakdown of the church’s dubious history and leadership. I’m sure they also do video game stuff, but that feels like it has no bearing on the actual facts presented.

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            Do yourself a favor and don’t.

            I don’t know how this has become a seemingly valid method of argument for an altogether too-large segment of the internet. Make some contrarian comment and then post a stupidly long video by some random that they seem to think is valid and useful evidence.

            No one is going to watch this shit. Anyone who has two hours to waste on some random dude’s opinions interspersed with commercials needs to reexamine their life priorities.

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              I linked it because I recall it having a lot of cogent points and being relevant, and because I don’t remember off the top of my head the specific allegations, I didn’t want to dig through a two hour video I’ve already seen at the exact moment of writing because I only had so much time and research to dedicate to a Lemmy comment. It’s valid to be annoyed by a long video linked as an argument, but my comment was a “too long didn’t watch” version of it… that actually left out some details like the founder also being a fucking eugenicist.

              I also use an adblocker, and the vid has some opinions obviously but was mostly going over evidence, recordings, and related allegations.

              You don’t have to watch it if you don’t want to. I linked it as a secondary source. While primary sources are preferable and it might have been a good idea to do the legwork myself, I wanted something posted quick to maybe make people think twice on the “donate to TST” call to action in the initial comment.

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                If the entirety of the video is summarized by the three whole sentences of context you wrote in your initial comment, it sounds even less worth a watch than I initially thought.

                From what I can find in actual sources, there’s two founders, and I’m guessing your claim on the eugenics is about Greaves, who certainly sounds like an asshole if not explicitly a eugenicist, but weirdly it didn’t take a two-hour anything to read about it.

                The rest of it seems to stem from something a former spokesperson wrote in a Medium article and a bunch of other asshole stunts by Greaves, who yes totally seems like an asshole. None of this took more than ten minutes of searching and reading, maybe thirty if you read slowly.

                I get that you’re not the only person in the world that does this, but if you actually care to make people think about something even once, like you claim to, maybe make the one thing you link to more accessible than a two-hour slog by some random YouTuber that I’m sure is super well-known to you and all their other followers but has no recognizable credibility outside of that tiny niche.

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    The story has been corrected to clarify that the time for gubernatorial action did not lapse. The governor signed the bill Wednesday.

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      Yeah does the law specify which ones? Many christian sects have slightly different wording and ordering.

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        The actual 10 commandments:

        11 Obey what I command you today. I will drive out before you the Amorites, Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites. 12 Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land where you are going, or they will be a snare among you. 13 Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and cut down their Asherah poles.[a] 14 Do not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.

        15 “Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices. 16 And when you choose some of their daughters as wives for your sons and those daughters prostitute themselves to their gods, they will lead your sons to do the same.

        17 “Do not make any idols.

        18 “Celebrate the Festival of Unleavened Bread. For seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Aviv, for in that month you came out of Egypt.

        19 “The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20 Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.

        “No one is to appear before me empty-handed.

        21 “Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.

        22 “Celebrate the Festival of Weeks with the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, and the Festival of Ingathering at the turn of the year.[b] 23 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Sovereign Lord, the God of Israel. 24 I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your territory, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times each year to appear before the Lord your God.

        25 “Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast, and do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Festival remain until morning.

        26 “Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the Lord your God.

        “Do not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk.”

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        1. Ice cream is tasty, but don’t overdo it.
        2. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
        3. Be nice.
        4. Like for real, stop being an asshole.
        5. Greed is for Ferengi, don’t overdo it.
        6. Dogs are great friends. Go pet one immediately.
        7. Be careful when petting a cat’s belly. It could be a trap.
        8. Be careful when your girl says ‘it’s fine’. It’s not. Buy chocolate.
        9. Eight commandments are enough, ten are a lot of effort
        10. But really, be nice.
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        And even the KJV edits did not manage to paper over the fact that there are in fact 18 if you count Sky Daddy’s recitation/rant in Exodus after the whole golden calf incident.