I do appreciate the fact that the Cybertruck was so clearly designed by someone who had no idea how to design a car, and that it’s Musk’s pet project. It really drives another nail in the coffin of the idea that he deserves all the credit for the work his companies do.
Then again, his most die-hard supporters draw no distinction between ownership and labor. They’re also somehow able to look at a Cybertruck and think “Wow!” rather than “Wow, is this some kind of a joke?”
I used to kinda like it because it was wrong and dumb, but I’d only ever get a horribly ugly statement car if it combined terrible aesthetics with good performance and build quality.
Man, that last part…
I honestly think owners of these things are just edgelords. It’s #notliketheothergirls for desperate, middle-aged men.
Not a Tesla fan but this is a stupid article. Driving on sand is 100% driver skills and tires. You could have a McLaren and a smart car with sand tires and the smart would win all day.
Tesla has branded it as a truck. As a layman who isn’t a Tesla simp or a motorhead, I would expect a comparison with other popular trucks if I were interested in learning more about it.
It is a truck. Not all trucks can drive in sand. It all comes down to driver skills and whatever tire is used on it. Who knows what tires the Ford is running.
Shit, I have seen two identical cars with identical tires and except one had lower tire pressure. The lower tire pressure won every time.
This is a stupid article designed for you guys to circlejerk on a brand. I mean enjoy the jerk. Elon deserves it. But don’t make it seem like it’s scientific. It’s just a circlejerk.
Not a very “apocalypse proof” vehicle, as Musk called it, if it can’t drive in sand…
a couple of owners decided to race their trucks
in this rather unscientific race
Did you even read the article? The author was very upfront about the context.
You’re the type of person that wants everyone to min/max everything and say “yeah but if this had happened” or “if they had done this differently”
Get down off your soapbox and appreciate this for what it was: two owners having a fun race for bragging rights. And if Ford comes out in a better light from it than Tesla, that’s not circle jerking over a brand, it’s just another anecdote to pile on top of all of the other stories about how piss poor the Cybertruck is at being an actual truck.
The driver skill is hard to control, but I would assume they had equal pressure in the tires, or at least close enough. There’s also more things that matter like tire width, lockers, horsepower, weight etc.
Even if it’s not a perfectly scientific test, it can still be interesting
That’s just not true. Sand is a power hog. Sucks up horsepower like nobody’s business. You gotta have some juice to move with wheels effectively.
It’s absolutely true. I used to drive my 6,000 lb squarebody all over the Oregon sand dunes in 2wd because it had big, wide tires that I’d drop down to 10 PSI. This had a stock small block V8 that probably put out a whopping 150HP.
Just tire pressure alone can make or break even the most capable vehicle. You need to float on the surface, not dig in. Street tire pressure will make your vehicle dig in and get stuck immediately regardless of weight or horsepower.
At what PSI are you almost just driving on the rims? I get that on sand that wouldn’t be an issue, but 10psi sounds like rims on a road to me?
I don’t have an exact number but it was fine with my tires. Newer, low profile tires can’t do it because the sidewalls are so short but the tires on the CT look meaty enough to handle these low pressures.
The issue is more about popping the bead off the wheel than your wheel touching the ground.
Is this podracing?
Now THIS is pod racing.
They filled the truck beds with a bunch of fish. It’s actually cod racing.
Actually they filled the truck beds with grass-covered surface soil. It’s actually sod racing.
Wrong again, they filled both trucks with metal poles, this is rod racing.
Still wrong, the beds are obviously empty. Only some people can enter this race, this is Todd racing.
Turns out the beds are filled with the discarded shells from shucking peas. This is Pod Racing…
Nah, they actually filled them with collectible cardboard bottle caps. This is POG Racing
It was a convoluted Dutch smuggling operation, the event was a cover. This is clog racing.
The bed of each truck is filled with a family of dolphins. This is pod racing.
That explains why Elon suddenly came out against drag 😉
…bravo.
Wait the cybertruck doesn’t even have all wheel drive?
Of course it has all wheel drive, the RWD version isn’t in production for quite some time.
You are right thanks for the correction. I misinterpreted this line
However, I’ve got to think here the big differentiator here was the Lightning’s all-wheel-drive system, which is almost certainly better at tacking loose surfaces than the Cybertruck’s.
No shit, the Cybertruck can’t offroad.
Cybertruck cant really truck. Turns out its just hot wheels for man-children.
That’s what the majority of (sedans masquerading as) trucks are used for anyway.
Pavement Princess or emotional support vehicle. Really hate the area I live in currently, my street is cluttered with them.
I am starting to see them as well makes me glad seeing how battered my Honda Civic looks these days. My car got shit done all those trucks were just there as a penis size compensation device
Yeah my golf gets most shit moved, really want a tow ball installed so I don’t need to steal my partner’s car for heavier / larger jobs.
Turns out its just hot wheels for man-children.
Like 90% of the point of hot wheels was looking cool, so I have to respectfully disagree
My six year old thinks it looks cool. If you adjust for hot wheels demographics I think they’re golden
I have decades more experience in being a child and I think it looks stupid.
I regret to inform you that your manchild card has been revoked
No you!
Similar to, but not quite the same as the kind of man-child that buys an F-150 on the off chance they need to haul a dresser once every 4 years. Seriously though, if each one of these buyers keeping US truck bloat in style bought a motorcycle instead to cement their self-worth, traffic would be eliminated in most US cities. That’s not possible due to many factors, I know, but it must be said motorcycles are just way cooler.
These insecure babies would never get on a motorcycle, it’s too dangerous.
Once in Bangkok I watched as three people loaded a dresser on a motorcycle, got him started, and then watched him drive off. It was balanced perpendicular.
Remember thinking that I would pay money to see this in the US. So freaken cool.
Most F150 owners also own a fart rocket
Problem then is, You Still gotta buy a truck to buy and haul your 2nd motorcycle, your 3rd motorcycle, your dirt bike, and your track bike.
in sand, weighing 2000 pounds more matters. so does grappler tires.
Yes, this race was already lost on paper. The execution frankly was likely just an excuse for some folks to dust off their Maga hats and crack open some beers.
I hate the Cybertruck as much as the next guy, but this could really boil down to just tire choice and nothing more.
Good point. As I understand it, the Cybertruck’s stock tires are not, in fact, a good tire choice.
https://jalopnik.com/cybertrucks-keep-getting-stuck-in-snow-1851148697
Cyber truck stock anything isn’t a good choice.
Suburban moms: i cant get an EV, what if i need to do sand drag racing
Sand drag racing at the end of a long road trip. It’s just not practical!
The point is to save car dependency, not the planet.
no idea what models of truck these were if the drivers were good at drag racing
What? This is extremely poor phrasing if you ask me.
To be fair to the Cybertruck, we’ve got no idea what models of truck these were, if the drivers were good at drag racing and driving on sand, or even how long the race was.
Honestly, the sentence just needs some punctuation and it’s fine.
Nonsense design vanity project made for toddler CEO underperforms in comparison to actual pickup designed and built by manufacturer of the top selling pickup… who would have guessed.
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I bet Musk thought he was a genius that could revolutionize trucks, just like Apple revolutionized smartphones.
I admit I still think the model S was pretty cool originally, but now there are better offers IMO, BMW and Audi have some very nice upper middle class cars, that I doubt very much Tesla can match the quality of. If money is not a problem, I’d go with a Mercedes. For a cheaper practical everyday car, I’d go with VW or Hyundai.But goddam I just tried my neighbors BMW I4- eDrive 40, that’s an amazing car with great range IMO. I’ve never been in a car that was that silent smooth and comfortable, and yet had stellar grip and handling. Even when you fired it up with everything it has, it was still quiet, you just felt the pressure of acceleration in the back. 😋
Well that BMW i4 is almost as smooth as this Marlboro cigarette that I’m enjoying right now.
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Smoking is dumb as shit dude
I think they’re suggesting the BMW comment reads like an ad by responding like an ad.
Ahhh I’m dumb as shit dude
Sounds like you don’t smoke cigarettes, so not that dumb!
So the Cybertruck is not that fast and the CEO of the company that makes it is a jamoke, big deal. At least it looks stupid.
I mean I’m more of a car guy so trucks and off roading aren’t my specialty but a vehicle built by a company that’s done it for a century vs a pissboy.
Shocker…
Who else watched this and thought of the jailbreak scene at the beginning of The Goonies?