• Frokke@lemmings.world
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    9 days ago

    Perhaps you shouldn’t be so obsessed with nipples and clits.

    We have been able to see faces since forever and people are still mocked for having faces that don’t fit the popular norms. Your argument is flawed.

    People still have the right to privacy. A right which supercedes your need to see tits and clits.

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      9 days ago

      Ultimately I’m not sure where I fall on this issue, but the fact that you just mindlessly claimed that this person wants to see tits and clits, when they said nothing of the sort, just exposes how fully you realize you can’t defend an actual position.

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        9 days ago

        It’s a common rhetoric certain people use. People that want everyone to be OK with nudity and in most cases diddling kiddo’s. Same arguments, almost verbatim, have been used in the map-sphere.

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          I don’t know how common it is to argue that women and girls should be treated as though they have worth and dignity regardless of their sexual proclivities and discretion, but it should be more common than it seems to be.

          As for your assertion that holding this belief somehow betrays pedophilic sympathies - I have to admit, I don’t follow. Although I will say whether the literacy failure in this argument is mine or yours I am content to leave as an exercise to our readers.

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            9 days ago

            And yet you push for more acceptance of nudity. Regardless of the wishes of the people involved.

            Funny you focus on the map part, not the actual argument. 😉

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              8 days ago

              There is no contradicton in believing that collectively shaming people who have had porn of them made is wrong and that making nonconsensual porn of people is wrong. Both are wrong. At no point did I say otherwise.

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                7 days ago

                That’s not the contradiction being referred to.

                Women and girls are human beings with their own minds and wishes and rights to their own bodies.

                Women and girls should show us the goods so we don’t get so horny.

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          9 days ago

          Common or not, they did not make the argument. You presumed a position and then used that made up position to launch an ad hominem.

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          People that want everyone to be OK with nudity and in most cases diddling kiddo’s. Same arguments, almost verbatim, have been used in the map-sphere.

          you say this like they’re saying that children have to be naked in order to be outside legally. The point they were making is that the primary reason half of what you said was a significant concern is due explicitly to our current social climate and it’s values. While not fully relevant, they still made a point, and considering how bad your argumentative rhetoric is, i’d say it’s a fair shot at something you said, considering you didn’t have much else to say other than accusing someone of being a pedophile i guess.

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      We have been able to see faces since forever and people are still mocked for having faces that don’t fit the popular norms. Your argument is flawed.

      i have vitiligo on my face, have yet to be mocked for it. People only ask about it respectfully.

      People still have the right to privacy.

      actually, no you don’t. Very few places have legal protections for privacy, both online, and physically, if you go outside in most states in the US you’re being trained on some sort of crime stopping AI dataset somewhere