• Llamajockey@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Wouldn’t be so bad if onedrive backup didn’t completely restructure your folders so it can back shit up. I hate that it moves your main folders to the OneDrive folder. It creates so many issues.

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      3 days ago

      You should try moving the OneDrive folder after setup for a complete shitshow. Even Microsoft products fail to read and write to the right places. If I save from word to my documents folder it never appears in OneDrive but in a separate documents folder under my user profile. Luckily OneDrive hides this from normal explorer so you can’t find that file using that

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    3 days ago

    Microsoft is on a fuck up their product speedrun, ain’t it?

    I’ve been reading " Windows 11 does this and that without asking your permission." Almost daily now. I wonder when Windows 11 will fingerbang my SO without permission next.

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      3 days ago

      Microsoft is on a fuck up their product speedrun, ain’t it?

      I think at this point it’s clear they have a core base of users who (for one reason or another) aren’t going anywhere no matter how much abuse they pile on top. It’s MS’s version of that 38% or whatever of people who are clearly going to vote Trump even if he reveals himself to be the literal devil.

      Fucking up their product? Why yes, each and every year they give me a new object lesson in how grateful I am to have ejected them from my life (except when paid to use Windows) in 2007. But will the company come to harm from it? I don’t think so.

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        Yes, since migrating to Linux at home in ‘04 I’ve wondered why MS users continue to take such abuse. It’s genuinely puzzling to me.

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            Don’t confuse “I’m used to X” with “X is simpler”

            Windows: Search the Web for some software. Visit webpage. Download executable. Run it. Go through a install wizard. (One month later) Update? Some do it themselves, some just let you know there is a newer version, and a lot of bigger players have a program dedicated to just updating some other program.

            Compared to (for example): paru -S <something>

            That’s it. Updating aaaalll the software in your whole system, including the OS, and you don’t have to restart, or even close any of the programs you are updating? paru

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            As simple as an exe? You mean clicking on the installer and follow instructions? That may be typical, but easy, it ain’t.

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            It actually way easier on Linux. Arch just type: pacman -S programName Or yay -S programName

            Most distros have a software “store” and it’s just as simple as installing an app on your phone.

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              Oh man. In one comment I’m defending how easy it is to use Linux.

              And here I am, still surprised that, in 2024m there are techies saying stuff like “oh that’s easy. Just open the terminal and…”

              …and you’ve lost a potential convert.

              The second part of your comment is on point, though.

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                It’s less steps than an exe and automated. Opening the terminal is one click. It’s not like you need to know how to do anything else in there.

                It is extremely easy. Open terminal, one command. Done. Your quote ended with “and…” As if there was a lot to type.

                “Oh that’s easy. Just open the terminal and type pacman -S firefox” sounds better.

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                  “It’s less steps” is not the point.

                  The point is that a lot of people will never ever use a terminal. EVER. And if they have to do that just to install a program, that’s already asking too much. They’re used to pointing, clicking, double-clicking and typing for communication.

                  Imagine if you’re used to driving cars and filling up the gas tank, well, the usual way. Now there’s this new tinkerer’s car that everyone is raving about. And your dad asks “how do I fill up the gas tank?” (or recharge the battery, or whatever), and someone says “oh, just go under the car and plug the cable into the orange slot right behind the left back axle. It’s that easy!”

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            I’d argue that searching around a slew of webpages to find a download button (without clicking an ad that imitates a download button), then running the .exe while making sure to uncheck the 4 or 5 pieces of adware they try to slip in without you noticing, then having to remember to update it manually now and then, is much more of a sketchy pain in the ass than running a single command to install everything from your kernel, to your web browser, all of which is tightly vetted and comes from a monitored set of servers.

            Also, if you really want a “click to install” most DE’s have a software store that either acts as a frontend for your package manager, or just uses flatpaks.

            I’d argue this is just what people are used to, and Windows has taught people that terminal=scary/hacky.

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          Linux nerds kind of lost the public relations war, the long-time antagonism towards “normie” users has created a lingering notion that linux is a pain in the ass and unaccomodating, even as some devs have tried to make it more inviting. It’s a difficult hump to overcome I think.