Here we go, the first Presidential debate between Biden and Trump begins at 9 PM Eastern/6 PM Pacific.

How to watch it:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/politics/how-to-watch-cnn-debate/index.html

"The CNN Presidential Debate will air live on CNN, CNN International and CNN en Español, and via streaming on Max for subscribers and without a cable login on CNN.com. CNN will make the debate available to simulcast on additional broadcast and cable news networks.

You can also follow CNN’s live debate coverage on CNN.com, which will include analysis and fact checking."

"According to parameters set by CNN in May, all participating debaters had to appear on a sufficient number of state ballots to reach the 270 electoral vote threshold to win the presidency and receive at least 15% in four separate national polls of registered or likely voters that meet CNN’s standards for reporting.

Polls that meet those standards are those sponsored by CNN, ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, Marquette University Law School, Monmouth University, NBC News, The New York Times/Siena College, NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist College, Quinnipiac University, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post."

Edit And that’s it! Thanks for watching everyone!

tl;dw:

Consensus is Trump didn’t so much as beat Biden as Biden beat himself.

The real loser is CNN who failed to fact check anyone, and there were obvious fact checks on both sides.

  • hypnoton@discuss.online
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    4 days ago

    Thanks Obama and capitalism. Without the Obama’s behind the scenes phone call bullshit intervention in the last primary which ended up giving us Biden we would have had Bernie as the president and none of this would have happened.

    • kandoh@reddthat.com
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      4 days ago

      Bernie had 4 years to shore up his weakness with black voters, the same issue he ran into against Hilary and didn’t.

      Bernie could’ve offered Pete VP to stay in the race and continue splitting the centrist vote, but he didn’t.

      In the timeline where Bernie won, and also beat Trump, we’d be dealing with progressives feeling betrayed that he inevitably did what ever other US president would do and sent weapons to Israel after Oct 7th.

    • aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com
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      4 days ago

      What? Bernie participated in the primary and got half the number of votes that Biden did. Biden won greater than 50% of the votes (not just the delegates).

      Why would Bernie have advanced as the candidate?