• Tinidril@midwest.social
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    5 days ago

    We can still get back to democracy. This isn’t democracy. Did you even read my comment btw? This knee jerk canned response isn’t even human.

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      5 days ago

      We are living in a democracy right now. The fascists are attempting to takeover our democracy. If we didn’t have democracy there wouldn’t be an election.

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          4 days ago

          The Democratic Party’s primary already happened. As is typical for American politics the incumbent won their party’s primary.

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            Well, at least in the states where they didn’t succeed in keeping everyone else off the ballot.

            There was no real primary. Even 2020 wasn’t a real primary. The fix is in with mainstream media and the major outlets taking their queues from the establishment.

            The idea that we have an actual democracy is laughable, and the Democratic party does everything in their power to keep it that way. Biden won in 2020 because the establishment picked him and the media did as they were told. There is no democracy without an independent press.

            Biden is a better choice than Trump for a multitude of reasons, but not saving democracy.

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              We have a democracy. There is a real Democratic Party primary every four years. Incumbent presidents usually win their primary when they are up for reelection.

              The press is independent, but for profit in most cases. There are of course non-profit exceptions. The fact capitalism exists doesn’t mean democracy doesn’t exist. It means the owner class has a profit motive to overthrow our democracy.

              Electing Biden preserves our flawed democracy for four more years. This gives us time to build grassroots movements to put people with better ideas into political positions in the next two elections. It delays the christo-fascist movement for four more years, who have to win a presidential election to succeed.

              Getting Biden in office is how we save our democracy, but not because of something he will do. In order to save our democracy, we first have to keep it. Then we have to fix it.

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                This year they literally canceled the presidential primary in several states so, no, we don’t have a primary every four years.

                Radical consolidation of the media industry has largely killed independent journalism. There is a long list of media personalities who were taken off the air for daring to speak the truth. Anchors are selected to represent the establishment perspective on everything. Media ownership and the establishment work together to dominate the narrative. For profit or non-profit is irrelevant. PBS is now as captured as the private networks.

                New media caught the establishment by surprise and did manage to make inroads, but that has largely been brought under control. Democrats and Republicans cooperated long enough to pressure social media companies to tweak the algorithm to direct viewers to “trustworthy” news sources, a group that laughably includes FOX News and MS-NBC and excludes independent news providers.

                Electing Biden can’t preserve democracy where none exists. There was that study out of Stanford that showed zero statistical correlation between the policy desires of voters and what legislation gets passed. We have the facade of democracy, but no actual democracy.

                What we do have is the fight for Democracy, and that fight has a much better chance under Biden than Trump. That’s not a minor distinction. I will not get behind allowing the Democratic establishment to portray itself as the defender of Democracy. They are democracy’s enemies, and they are my enemies. The entire fight for democracy in an age of media manipulation is a fight to pull back that curtain. That fight doesn’t stop because of Trump.