• 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 months ago

      Then organise the renters, let them buy the house to transform it into syndicate or cooperative housing. Social apartment construction isn’t impossible.

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    10 months ago

    Why not prefer apartments in your own town?

    Noise. Neighbours being closer.

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      10 months ago

      Ownership. You will not own your apartment, it will be owned by your landlord and you will pay him whatever he demands. You will not own the forest, either. The state will, or some private entity will. No trespassing.

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        You can still own and buy appartements in most places in the world. Then there are many forms of social housing.

        Rent to own is also a possibility but not seen in most countries.

        Seems your problem is not ownership but landlords.

        Some countries in Europe have the right to roam on any land. State owned and private owned. (Maybe more countries somewhere else have it to but I don’t know)

        It does not need to be so terrible. In some places it just is because of profits

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          10 months ago

          Owning an apartment and owning land are wildly different. The housing structure alone is not the entirety of home ownership.

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            10 months ago

            Since we’re just talking hypotheticals anyway, let’s say in the second image the land is actually owned by the owners of the apartments, like a co-op.

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              10 months ago

              That’s still not ownership. That’s co-ownership. I’m not free to do what I want with it, when I want.

              Same reason I hate HOAs

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    A lot of people are pro-apartmemt before living in one, so here are some fun facts:

    1. Apartments usually have a maintenance cost, that covers as little as possible while still costing a lot. You never really own the flat, the building company does.

    2. You often have a communal garden; it’s looked after by the lowest bidding contractor. Not all flats have balconies, so you are unlikely to have your own.

    3. Fear of fire and flooding - if someone else messes up, your stuff is toast/soaked. Insurance companies love that extra risk, it gives them an excuse to charge more.

    4. No flat has good sound proofing - the baby screaming downstairs at 5am and the thunder of the morbidly obese person upstairs going to the bathroom at 1am will denote your new sleep schedule (i.e. disturbed)

    5. I hope you’re in for deliveries - apartments have no safe spots to leave things.

    6. You will not be able to afford a flat with the same floor space as a house. I’m sorry, welcome to your new coffin.

    7. Good luck drying your laundry (spoiler, your living room is going to have a laundry rack).

    8. Good luck owning a bike (it’s either the bike or your laundry, take your pick).

    9. Vocal intimacy becomes a community event.

    Living in a flat is a pile of little miseries grouped together.

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    10 months ago

    You can still have trees and plant life in low density housing. You don’t need green deserts everywhere.

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          We used to be a great nation… Invading… Murdering… Stealing… Imposing grass deserts… Now we have left the EU, are implementing government spyware and have no plans to make anything better…

          I don’t remember what my point was, but England is shit and I don’t want to be here anymore.

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        I don’t really care. As a lifelong apartment dweller; I hate people and want nothing to do with them. Get me a house far away from civilisation and I’ll be happy. Communal space, my arsehole.

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          This is the insanity of people who advocate for densified housing, IMO. I loathe apartments and attached dwellings. It’s like a dystopian future where you can’t own anything or have private space. If I never have to share a wall or floor with someone again, it will be too soon.