• Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    27 days ago

    Yes, you are right. You are talking of moving people inside cities. I am talking about a) getting in and out of the city and b) moving goods into and out of cities. None of the usual demands in this group ever even starts to address this.

    • ebc@lemmy.ca
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      27 days ago

      What usually works better for moving people in and out of cities is park-n-ride setups where you setup a giant parking lot in the suburbs next to a metro station. People can just ditch their car outside the city and proceed using public transit. I often do this in Montreal, for example.

      For goods, it’s a similar setup but with big trucks transferring cargo to smaller trucks; this is already pretty common.

      • phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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        26 days ago

        Just use busses and trams

        And once people use bikes all over and you can get rid of the 10.000 parking spots, you can build much more local small shops. Nobody loves going to Walmart and nobody will if there are small local shops around the corner where you can simply walk to

    • biddy@feddit.nl
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      26 days ago

      Yes, of course delivery trucks need access to cities, some goods are not practical to move by cargo bike. As do emergency services and buses. Nobody disagrees with this. The problem in many cities is that streets are clogged with useless private cars. So the obvious solution is to ban private cars.

        • biddy@feddit.nl
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          26 days ago

          Private cars in general are not useless, but private cars in the center of cities should be useless if the city is designed well. The space-transportation trade off does not make sense.