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minus-squareUnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·2 months agoHow many Ukrainians are going to die before that happens?
minus-squareVikthor@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·2 months agoLess than how many would die by the rampaging horde if Ukraine gave up. Judging by what happend in Bucha, Irpin, Mariupol or elsewhere.
minus-squareUnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·2 months agoThat was during the war. Playing rocket tag with the Russians for another three years will create more Mariupols.
minus-squareMaalus@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·2 months agoRussia giving up would solve everything tho, so let’s do that instead
minus-squareLinkerbaan@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·2 months agoWe could have done that but decided to give Ukraine second hand garbage to fight with.
minus-squareripcord@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·2 months agoHow would we have done that, US+Europe+others join the war?
minus-squareLinkerbaan@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·edit-22 months agoWhen it came to israel we managed to pull a gazillion weapons out of thin air. And created special teams to rush weapons shipments to a country committing Genocide instead of one being invaded. Or bypassing congress, doing secret arms sales, any of the plethora of ways that we use to support israel committing Genocide could have been used to help Ukraine win.
minus-squareripcord@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·2 months agoGotcha. I guess a difference there is that Israel was paying money. So that has been urgent partly so some people could make a shitton of money.
minus-squareLinkerbaan@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·2 months agoIsrael was loaning money which Genocide Joe made sure to refund them in full afterwards. Now that Biden gifted israel $26Billion the entire “israel is paying for it” argument doesn’t hold up much
How many Ukrainians are going to die before that happens?
Less than how many would die by the rampaging horde if Ukraine gave up. Judging by what happend in Bucha, Irpin, Mariupol or elsewhere.
That was during the war.
Playing rocket tag with the Russians for another three years will create more Mariupols.
Russia giving up would solve everything tho, so let’s do that instead
We could have done that but decided to give Ukraine second hand garbage to fight with.
How would we have done that, US+Europe+others join the war?
When it came to israel we managed to pull a gazillion weapons out of thin air. And created special teams to rush weapons shipments to a country committing Genocide instead of one being invaded.
Or bypassing congress, doing secret arms sales, any of the plethora of ways that we use to support israel committing Genocide could have been used to help Ukraine win.
Gotcha.
I guess a difference there is that Israel was paying money. So that has been urgent partly so some people could make a shitton of money.
Israel was loaning money which Genocide Joe made sure to refund them in full afterwards.
Now that Biden gifted israel $26Billion the entire “israel is paying for it” argument doesn’t hold up much