• Bobmighty@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    I play healer sometimes because it’s a fun gameplay challenge to keep bumbling idiots alive long enough to get a victory.

  • 🇰 🔵 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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    The only time I had fun being a healer was when I made a shaman in WoW, and it’s mostly because it was like being a cleric in D&D; a tank that can heal. I would do BGs and invariably wreck fools who thought targeting the healer would be easy. 😈

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      21 days ago

      In the early days of Rift there was a mage build that used a bunch of attacks to target what the tank was targeting and would build your crit chance to 85%+ and then crit heal the tank for their entire bar. The tanks absolutely hated it, but it was the most fun healing I’ve done across 10+ MMOs, MOBAs, and arena shooters

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        Chloromancer? Yeah, I remember RIFT fondly, and I feel sad that Gamigo are milking the rotten husk of Trion Worlds out of every last cent before they inevitably shut all their games down.

    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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      The cleric in D&D that I had the most fun with made it so that my Magic Missiles were still useful at level 15+. She had decided early on that reach-spell was a feat that was absolutely needed, and would routinely stock a few reached Harm spells. This meant that she had a 25’ “Touch Attack” that ignored armor, and dex bonus. All you get is natural armor. If she successfully “touched” you, you now have 4 HP and a host of debuffs. Cue Magic Missile, and at that level I don’t even have to roll because I am going to do between 10 and 20 points of damage, that cannot miss.

      The first time we used it, she snuck attacked the boss in the middle of him monologuing, and I killed him in one move from each of us. DM started handing us three to four BBEG as boss fights after that.

    • Neato@ttrpg.network
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      21 days ago

      I’m a cleric on undeath and indulgence in Pathfinder and it’s great. Really good healing and can call down huge blasts of fire and summon a demon friend. I consider it a switch who brings their own threesome.

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    21 days ago

    Healing in FFXIV is the most fun I had in MMO, having to do mechanics, dps and keeping grp alive

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      I think the reason FFXIV is enjoyable is more-so that if you act like a toxic dickwad, you’ll be yeeted out of the community at record pace by Square Enix, because unlike Blizzard, they actually enforce their game rules.

      Healing is fun when the community is supportive and not when people are blowing a gasket over imperfect play.

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    I’m nowhere near as into MMOs as I was years ago, but I honestly preferred non-DPS roles. Healing was my forte and I actually feel proud of myself for nearly clearing Icecrown Citadel Heroic during my WoW heyday. Had to quit several weeks into joining a decent guild because of sixth form.

    Dunno whether it’s a European thing but I’ve always found MMO (and MOBA) communities to be toxic-as-fuck and that’s what turned me away from hardcore raiding. Things were once so bad that I got bullied and harassed off of a server (Turalyon EU, horde side) during my teenage years.

    I could write an entire novella of negative experiences I’ve had with players in both game genres, but I’d be going off on a massive tangent.

    All I’ll say is that this meme is accurate. Healers get a lot of flak when things go wrong, and it takes a certain level of masochism to actually want to play with the kind of verbally abusive, sociopathic, basement-dwelling turbovirgins that flip out with slur-filled nerd rage, messages telling you to off yourself, and wishes that you’ll die of cancer, all because you didn’t parse highly during a raid boss or didn’t carry their hardstuck asses in a Ranked League of Legends game.

    The hardest part about World of Warcraft (at least from a PvE perspective) isn’t playing your class well. It’s having to wade through a community rife with elitism, gatekeeping, unattainable catch-22’s to join a raid group and toxicity. Final Fantasy XIV is a bit better, but that’s because unlike Blizzard, Square Enix actually invest in customer service and actually enforce their player conduct rules.

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      Toxic guilds is why I stopped playing wow. Can confirm. Also healing is both harder and more fun than dpsing when done right

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      That wasn’t my experience at all, but my guild was made up of grown ups with actual lives IRL. Sure we were pretty casual by most standards, but raiding was fun and toxicity was shut down instantly.

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        Yeah casual guilds don’t really have those issues because the requirements for skill at low raid tiers are so lax. Honestly the game kinda lends itself to toxicity when you play in 25-man groups, and it only takes a single person messing up in a mythic raid to ruin the pull for everyone. When it’s like that, isolating the “problem” player is going to be pretty common, and people tend to be more elitist and toxic in general when they are hiding behind a computer screen.

        That’s not to say a high level guild can’t be positive and supportive, though. One of the things I like about watching RWF is that most of the high level guilds seem to have such a tight bond, and they never point fingers over a single raid wipe. They’re all in it together and come up with ways to compensate for each other’s weaknesses. But it probably helps that every player is highly invested in playing absolutely perfectly, and I’m sure getting a guild to that point requires aggressively cutting out a lot of weak links along the way 😐

  • LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    At least it’s an interesting role. I’ve always played FPS, which seems so vanilla. And I play ESO solo a lot, so about 25% of the time I forget to take off the Ring of the Pale Order when I do dungeons, which prevents being healed.

    Maybe it’s time to try my hand at a bottom build.

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      Healing is a very interesting experience, for me. You need a whole new level of awareness, as you’re now watching what everyone is doing, and need them working in line to best do your job. Resource management is on a whole other level when you now have all of yours, the entire parties health and buffs, and whatever the boss has counting down.

      It’s a very active style of play, especially once triage comes in. When shit hits the fan, you need to decide who you can even try to save, and if they’re worth saving. I’ve had times that I left a DPS on the ground because it was quicker to just start dumping all I had into burning down the boss, and grab 'em up after the fact.

      Then comes in the fun of having multiple healers. You gotta work out who’s taking what chunk, if and when you need to cover each other, and half the time you might end up healing the wrong people, because at some point you stop seeing the names. It’s just health bars and cool downs. Nothing matters except keeping those bars just full enough.

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          It takes the right kind of person. I don’t know what, exactly, is broken in us, but there’s just something about all the chaos and going “Yeah, I can turn this into order”. People thought I was kidding when I told them tanking was me taking a mental break. Hell yeah, it was, shout at things, make sure to use my squishes as fart-targets, and just shut my brain off and let all of the rage I’ve built up keeping idiots alive out by smashing this things face in.

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    eh, i always feel like good supports can make or break a team. like if you’re a good DPS player, whoopdie doo, anyone without a life can train themselves to oblivion for some mechanical skill but the game sense, decision making and reactions needed for support players are much more impressive to me.

    there’s nothing that feels more awesome to me as a (generally) DPS player to take insane risks and get out alive due to supports having your back. never felt like a top/dom in such situations. more like buddy cops.

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      My one true MMO addiction in my younger days was City of Heroes, where I was an Empathy Defender (healer/buffer). I played pure support and never attacked enemies at all, because my attacks weren’t strong enough to be impactful, and enemies would aggro me and kill me off in 1 hit.

      When people asked why I didn’t contribute to damage, I explained that staying alive and helping the other 7 people on my team to do 20% more damage and stay in the fight was a much bigger contribution than adding another percent or 2 to damage before I got 1-shot and the team wiped.

  • shadowscale@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    i am once again asking people to stop conflating bottoming and subbing

    bottom means your on the bottom, sub means your submissive. you can be a dominant bottom and a submissive top. i’ve been both

    anyways healers will dom you, it’s tanks that will be submissive. we’re masochists

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    Are you kidding? Healers are the ultimate in big dom(me) energy. We hold all the power. You will beg us on your knees for just a taste. What’s that baby? You got yourself all beat up and now you need some hit points do you? Just a few little hit points to keep you going? You little slut. You little hp whore. Say you want it slut. Say you want that healing so bad. Say you’ll do anything for it.

    Yeah, that’s what I thought.