Hey all,

In the market for a GPU, would like to use Bazzite, mostly a Steam user with some SteamVR (rare), and have run into nvidia issues with Bazzite and a 3070 previously.

With the recent news on nVidia’s beta drivers and Plasma’s sync support in beta, I’m newly on the fence about switching to AMD given nvidia having a better performance to cost ratio, the power usage (big one for a compact living room system), and the fact that they have the potential for HDMI2.1 support which AMD doesn’t have a solution to yet.

What are community thoughts? I’ll probably hold out for some reports on the new drivers regardless, but wanted to check in with the hive mind.

Thanks!

  • Vinny_93@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Why even use HDMI when AMD does DisplayPort 2.0 where nvidia only does 1.4?

    I’d say nvidia would work fine but you need to take into account that the drivers can be a bit flakey.

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      1 month ago

      A lot of displays don’t support DP unfortunately. I have an LG C2 which is perfect for desktop use and one of the more affordable OLED screens out there, and it does not support DP. The PC monitor equivalent that uses the same panel is made by Asus, but that one has a $600 dollar mark up.

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        1 month ago

        There are converters these days, albeit with some minor quirks. And they typically only use DP 1.4 anyway, although that’s enough for perceptually lossless 4k@120hz + HDR.

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            21 days ago

            Do they support VRR though? Last I heard that was still an issue with these converters.

            Yes, some of them do but it can be dependent on the firmware (some of them are flashable). I will add that my display supports both Freesync over HDMI and VRR, and it’s not always clear which it is actually using under the hood, so be aware of that. You’ll need a pretty recent kernel. Definitely at least 6.3 but prefer 6.6 or later.

            My experience is the adapters have much better support under Linux as well, with them being almost useless on Windows (no HDR, no VRR, and potentially no 120Hz). But it’s been a while since I’ve tested.

            Here’s the adapter I use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b6w814wXvc

            And a long discussion thread about HDMI 2.1 and adapters used to workaround the issue: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/1417 which may be helpful if you run into issues.

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              18 days ago

              Here’s the adapter I use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b6w814wXvc

              Did you copy the wrong link? This was a random youtube video.

              Good to hear that some adapters do work though. The lack of HDMI 2.1 basically prevented me from ever considering AMD, but if there are converters that work that certainly opens up my options.

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                18 days ago

                My bad, the two clipboards on Linux still trip me up after all of these years. Anyway, I’ve added a link to the above.

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                  13 days ago

                  Thanks! So VRR works out of the box for you or did you have to do tweaks to get it to work? The answers on the Amazon page are conflicting, with the manufacturer saying VRR is not supported but some users saying it does. Don’t know who to believe.

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    1 month ago

    I would keep in mind one thing with Nvidia. Their consumer GPU market is a drop in the bucket compared to their server, cloud and AI/ML markets. AMD dedicates real effort and resources to their hardware development and they don’t lock their features to their own platform. I’m still using a vega56 and haven’t really felt a need to upgrade because things like fsr just keep my card chugging along.

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        1 month ago

        It’s true though…consumer graphics mean damn near nothing to them, their AI/ML profits shit all over your precious 4080’s and 4090’s in regards to straight profit for Nvidia.

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            1 month ago

            They rehash the same chip over and over again each generation with minimal gains, increase the power requirements and cut out third party oems like EVGA. Give it a couple generations and I would bet they’ll only be selling the 4080/90 equivalents in the future and let intel or amd have the midrange and low range market, freeing up manufacturing for their AI/ML hardware. Doesn’t matter if it’s conjecture, the writing is on the wall. People are choosing to ignore it even though the market is flooded with low end Nvidia cards made to look like their low and midrange offerings aren’t selling. It’s only a matter of time, the consumer graphics market is a second class citizen for Nvidia.