A nuanced attempt by Sen. Linsey Graham (R-SC) to assert that the U.S. should never have been in the position to have to launch the Normandy invasion 80 years ago fell with a thud on Sunday morning after he told a CBS host that D-Day was a "failure."Discussing battling Russian President Vladimir Put...
I understand that this whole thread is just about repeating unsubstaniated bullshit about a shitty person because he’s a shitty person, you don’t have to keep telling me that.
I guess the difference is that I care about whether the things I’m saying are actually true, even when I’m talking about someone I personally dislike.
Oh but you and I agree. We both love defending Lindsey Graham and giving him the benefit of the doubt because he’s earned it. Keep on fighting the good fight brother
Well, but now I’m not so sure. Maybe we should start just embracing whatever things “feel true,” whether or not they correspond to reality. Like, we have these facts that are supported by evidence, but what if we had, let’s call them, “alternative facts.” Maybe what really matters is how true something feels to us, a sort of “truthiness,” if you will. If we untether ourselves from evidence, think of all the things we could say! Like, what if we said Trump was operating a sex trafficking ring in the basement of a pizza shop, and accused anyone pushing back or asking for evidence of “defending Trump?”
I call it, “Blue MAGA.” I know you’re all about making sure claims are based on evidence even when they’re about people you don’t like, but I really think you might like that idea.
One point of clarification friend. I never said Lindsey does not support Ukraine. I said his reason for supporting anything is always self-serving, which there is mountains of evidence of. You could wave your hand and do the centrist “whatabout” all politicians being self-serving. But the fact is that Lindsey Graham is one of the most obvious modern examples of flip flopping on issues to benefit himself. If you have a counter example I’d love to read about it.
My original point is that it really doesn’t matter what someone like Lindsey says or supports today, because it will change with the wind tomorrow (when he’s up for election usually)
You took what I said and made a beautiful little Blue MAGA strawman out of it.
Right, so you’re just going to gloss over all your sarcastic replies mocking me and characteristing me as “defending Graham” for pointing out that there’s no evidence that his support for Ukraine is insincere.
Good talk.
Oh I get it now, you can’t read :(
A classic finisher. Just put it at the end of any argument and declare victory, instant win, no counter, Riot plz nerf.
Do you have any evidence that’s what I’m doing? I didn’t declare victory. You definitely won this argument!!! I had no chance competing against such an onslaught of arguments unrelated to what I actually said to begin with. I loved the part where you made up a belief system and aspects of my personality at the same time you argued for evidence based conclusions. It really drove your point home! I understand everything clearly now
Oh, well then thank you.
The downvoters think you’re being serious. Lol!
The things you’re saying are not true.
For example?
That Graham genuinely supports Ukraine.
I just noticed your username. It checks out, and everything makes sense now. Are you an AI bot?
I’m very confused why you think my username would indicate that I’m a bot. I am, however, entirely unsurprised that you’d make that allegation without a shred of evidence, as evidence doesn’t really seem to be your thing.
I picked it because I’d recently gotten into the Ace Attorney games, and also like to ground my beliefs in evidence and expect other to as well. For a while, I was channelling Phoenix Wright’s voice, as a bit, but then I got bored of it.
If I am a bot, then whoever programmed me deserves a promotion, because I think I sound very human. But I’m not really sure how I could go about proving that I’m not a bot. Let’s see, punching Nazis is cool and you should do it, does that work? Ah, but maybe I’m a bot with safety restrictions turned off. Probably there’s nothing I could say to prove it to you, it’s utterly unfalsifiable.
At that point, how do I know you’re not a bot? Maybe this whole thread full of bots! Oooooohhhhh~ spooky spooky. Can we return to reality now, please?
You’re a troll bot. AI bots can be very eloquent.
As predicted lol.