A Republican state senator has called for “civil war” if Donald Trump loses the presidential election in November.
George Lang, an Ohio politician, made the comment as he introduced JD Vance at his first solo campaign event since becoming Trump’s running mate.
After taking to the stage fist-raised and shouting Trump’s post-shooting battle cry “Fight! Fight!”, Mr Lang warned of an existential threat facing Americans. He declared in front of a large, heated crowd in Ohio: “We are in the fight for the soul of our nation… for our kids, for our grandkids, it is a fight we can never imagine.
“I believe wholeheartedly, Donald Trump and Butler County’s JD Vance are the last chance to save our country. Politically, I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country.”
Why would they want to lose immediately after losing…I mean, I don’t want to kink-shame, but I don’t see the logic…
What say we start a list of the posts saying this and after Trump loses to that black lady we spam the posts back onto their feeds?
Name and shame these cunts, if they can’t play fair eliminate their voting rights. If that isn’t enough send them to prison. If that’s not enough, I’m sure you can extrapolate. There is no room for bad faith actors in our country.
Plenty of room for bad faith actors in the country. No room for them in the government.
We do not negotiate with……what was that again?
Oh no! What will do if morbidly obese 70 year-old slobs who are so afraid of cities that they think they need a gun to visit San Francisco start a civil war? How will we ever defeat the sandy vagina brigade that thinks a reality TV host is a big a strong man?
San Fran? I live in rural America and I see twits like this at the grocery store. They are too scared to go buy a gallon of milk without being strapped.
Keep a close eye. These motherfuckers are riding the edge of subversive/seditious acts: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_Act
If any organization makes “civil war” an official position then they’re fucked.
Not with a supreme court that’s willing to say Unicorns exist for the sake of a legal argument. Law means nothing in this land for republicans right now.
It should be noted that a large swath of that act has been overturned by the supreme court in the decades since the 40s.
It’s where we get the distinction between “advocating for revolution” and “telling people to revolt, now”.
One is protected because “violent revolution” in an abstract sense is a protected political policy position.
The law was originally used to target unionists and socialists who said we needed to tear the system down and rebuild it, by force if necessary.What isn’t protected is an imminent call to action or direct incitement to lawlessness.
Advocating for the ability to do something that violates the current law is the only way to advocate for changing a law.
Do you see Biden’s AG charging them with treason?
They didn’t capitalize on Jan 6th to purge everyone involved, just gave a few car dealership owners a slap on the wrist.
But the US didn’t have tanks and planes back then. Surely our muskets will be even more effective against those.
The US would win without ever firing a single shot. Cut off electricity, the countless food products we import, imported fuel, cheap products from China, USPS/FedEx/Amazon Prime/etc, and so on. A week of eating gruel in the dark and they’ll be begging to rejoin the US.
We wouldn’t wait the week though, some of those states have oil.
One hurricane season without FEMA and I suspect their constituents would realize their mistake.
The temperature is definitely rising. I’d be lying if I said I’d be cool with Republicans succeeding at keeping Harris (or whoever the Dem pick is) off the ballots in any state - we have a questionable democracy right now… we’d definitely not have a democracy then.
They kept Lincoln of the ticket in some southern states.
There is a party of people that will argue that we are not a democracy or never were.
It was founded as a democracy for some. That’s what they want to go back to.
And there is a majority of Americans ready to tell those dumb nerds to shut up with their boring nonsense
But since they’ve got a broken electoral system and the billionaires on their side it could go either way
And those same mendacious, disingenuous fuck-knuckles get pseudo-patriotism boners when Trump whips out the “I took a bullet for democracy” line, without an ounce of shame or even self-awareness.
I assure you, the people who are aware of the US’s history and don’t recognize it as a democracy (or more specifically, recognize it as a bourgeoisie democracy), are not patriotic or pro-trump.
A simple test for who the US government represents: Does it’s actions favor the people or the bourgeoisie?
From. From democracy.
Your definition of democracy seems to hinge on your own whims.
Your desperation to invalidate democracy based on a switching of candidates shows two things… 1 shit happens… not too different as the decades pass, and 2 you don’t understand the meaning of “democracy” and are desperate to just talk shit…
Dems switching candidates doesn’t invalidate democracy it just shows how desperate you are to discount it…
What? I’m talking about Republicans suing to keep a democrat off the ticket - that’s a much different ball game than the convention. I want an open process in both arenas without tampering.
Good last line there
Way to completely miss what he said there. He said “with republicans SUCCEEDING AT KEEPING HARRIS OFF OF THE BALLOTS”. How the fuck does this drivel have so many upvotes when it completely misses the argument.
Bullfuckingshit. I said it when Trump was shot at, and I’ll keep saying it: only ONE party has been ramping up the rhetoric for violence, and it sure as fuck isn’t coming from Democrats. These morons obviously don’t care if they get shot at again, because it’s not in their minds that they are causing the problem.
This is their M.O. though:
- Identify a target to rant about
- Call for violence
- Say you’re TOTALLY FUCKING SERIOUS THIS TIME
- Apologize and act like that’s enough, knowing what you said will stick with the crowd, but the Democrats aren’t going to call bullshit.
Here’s a thought: Biden uses his last 6 months of King Powers granted by the SC to put everyone of these fuckers in jail by Executive Order on sedition and treason charges, backing it up by making it an “Official Act” since Trump was shot at, and these assholes are trying to get more people shot at. That’ll shut them the fuck up.
I see people constantly saying that democracy will end, there wont be elections again, they will do all kinds of evil things, etc. How is that not ramping up rhetoric for violence?
Trump has specifically said these things. The Project 2025 psychos have said these things. Those are threats. Therefore, that is a threat to democracy, and democracy ending. So again, it’s only coming from one side, the MAGA clowns.
So how then how does your team claiming democracy will end if they win not ramp up rhetoric for violence?
I have no idea what this even means…
If Trump is orange Hitler then it would be good stop him by any means necessary. If your claim is “If Trump takes power that will end democracy” how is that not rhetoric for violence?
Because the Democrats aren’t out there saying “HEY, WE NEED A FUCKING CIVIL WAR AND TO START KILLING PEOPLE WHO ARENT ON BOARD WITH OUR NAZI V2 BULLSHIT!”, those are Trump’s cronies saying this shit.
The Democrats are out there saying to show up and vote.
Big fucking difference, and the pedantry of your question says you’re trying to troll, or completely ignorant at best if you can’t tell the difference on your own. WTF.
So the rhetoric does not increase violence just as long as you agree with it?
I was saying that after Jan 6.
Historically speaking, not purging your opposition after an attempted coup or change of power is one of the dumbest decisions you can make, second only to putting/leaving the opposition in positions of power and also making them your successor.
In American history, we saw it with Lincoln, resulting in his assassination and the end of reconstruction, and less dramatically, we saw it when Obama (and more recently Biden) left like half of Bush’s appointees in power, who immediately use their power to sabotage the administration.
Executive orders not needed, there are actually crimes they can be charged with but for the federalist society plant running DOJ
I mean, you’re totally right until the last paragraph. I don’t think Biden locking them up by executive order would shut them up. I think it’s more likely that would spark the civil war they’re so desperate to have. They’re like Kyle Rittenhouse, just waiting for an excuse to shoot a leftist.
That and the Supreme Court gets to decide what king powers are legal, and who gets to exercise it. And its not Biden
Sorry, it doesn’t read with inflection properly I guess. I guess just every time some random trying to curry favor with Trump calls for violence or a Civil War, that there should be punishment. Seems Biden can do that now milli-vanilli, and he should use it for some good.
One minor, but important distinction:
Yes, the alt right and Republicans generally have been ramping up violent rhetoric. They broke the social contract and thus are no longer covered by it.
They are now valid targets of violence.
It’s a subtle distinction but important one and one we on the left must be careful to employ because the Alt-right will use any violence against them and will respond in kind.
Call your Senators and Representatives and give them an earful about this. If they shrug you off or they are on the side of those calling for civil war, then let other gov’t officials know.
We collectively need to stop allowing these shit lords from getting away with putting the idea of war against each other into the minds of those that otherwise know it’s wrong but just follow groupthink
I’ve been thinking, save the country from what exactly? Save it from gay rights? Save it from trans rights? That’s it isn’t it? They want to save the country from human rights.
Don’t forget women’s rights and atheists and religions other than Christianity. And immigrants
So for them it’s trump or violence? Why are these people allowed in civil society
The extremes of both parties appear to believe that their opponent’s victory would end American democracy. I don’t mean to equate the two parties (I think only the red one is actually a threat). I’m just worried that we’ll be seeing much more violence than we’re used to.
Bring it the fuck on. Don’t mistake a distaste for violence for an unwillingness to fight would-be oppressors.
I’ll never forget the Florida Republican that rammed his car into a Prius and shot at the driver, learning your statement the hard way.
It’s so funny that these people will then turn around and deny all of the violence and unrest brought about by MAGA.
Charlottesville, January 6th, the attack on Paul Pelosi, the attempted kidnapping, torture and execution of Gretchen Whitmer, I could go on. They even wrote 900 pages on how they want to dismantle decades of progress in the US.
They then have the audacity to say that it’s the democrats who need to “turn down the rhetoric” and stop trying to take away their rights?
It’s maddening.
From the prologue, we can infer they’ll be shooting at each other.
If we lose this election we will need to have a civil war to save the country? So what he’s saying, in essence, is that if Trump can’t get enough support to win an election, his supporters should overthrow the government. Am I understanding that correctly?
That should be grounds for immediate disqualification. It won’t be because the previous one happened anyway even though there was ample warning.
That should be grounds for arrest for insurrection and treason.
Calling for the overthrow of the government because you lost an election should be grounds for something much harsher than just disqualification.
But apparently it’s not.
As a Latin American it is so surreal to see American politians behave the same way as their counterparts in countries like Nicaragua and Venezuela, hopefully things are not going to go down this route
Yep. Your understanding is correct.
You’re*
incorrecting (v) - the act of attempting to correct someone with incorrect information, causing hilarity to ensue.
I deserve it.
Thats a good one right their.
Lol, no. Does “you are understanding is correct” sound correct to you? Because you’re means you are.