• Zombie@feddit.uk
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    Lol, at the idea China could just waltz in and kick everyone out. Maybe they could do it in 3 days like Russia did with Ukraine?

    I guess Palestine, Scotland, and Kosovo aren’t countries either because they’re not fully recognised by the UN? Assuming being a UN member is the only definition of being a country that is…

    Countries are weird. Some fit into nice little boxes, and some don’t. Some have full autonomy over their affairs, and some have shitty neighbours, so don’t.

    The only real metric to determine whether Taiwan is part of China is to ask the people who live there. And guess what, this is what they say:

    In June 2021, an annual poll found that 28.2 percent supported the status quo and postponing a decision, 27.5 percent supported maintaining the status quo indefinitely, 25.8 percent supported the status quo with a move toward independence, 5.9 percent supported the status quo with a move toward unification, 5.7 percent gave no response, 5.6 percent supported independence as soon as possible, and 1.5 percent supported unification as soon as possible.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan#Domestic_opinion

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      LMAO, China can just blockade the province and the economy there would crash overnight.

      The only real metric to determine whether Taiwan is part of China is to ask the people who live there. And guess what, this is what they say:

      Yeah, I agree, especially after all the NED sponsored propagandists are kicked out. Meanwhile, even despite US having a massive presence in Taiwanese media, the only reason DPP got in power was using first past the post mechanic.

      Latest polling shows that vast majority of people want to maintain the status quo:

      https://esc.nccu.edu.tw/PageDoc/Detail?fid=7801&id=6963

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        China can just blockade the province and the economy there would crash overnight.

        I think the word “just” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.

        Do you honestly think a military blockade is the way to get people on the side of your cause?

        after all the NED sponsored propagandists are kicked out

        “After all the people I disagree with are got rid of” Do you honestly think that makes you the good guy? Removing political opponents is the methodology of authoritarians.

        You claim international law on one hand as if it means something and then threaten with the big stick with the other.

        Put simply, you’re an asshole.

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          Do you honestly think a military blockade is the way to get people on the side of your cause?

          I don’t think that at all, and that’s why China hasn’t resorted to this option.

          “After all the people I disagree with are got rid of” Do you honestly think that makes you the good guy? Removing political opponents is the methodology of authoritarians.

          Entire books have been written explaining in great detail how media is used to manipulate public opinion, and here you are bleating about AuThoRiTarIanS. 🤡

          You claim international law on one hand as if it means something and then threaten with the big stick with the other.

          Not sure what the contradiction in your mind is of a country enforcing its laws within its borders. You’ll have to enlighten us on this fascinating political theory of yours.

          Put simply, you’re an asshole.

          Put simply, you’re a cheap propagandist without a shred of intellectual honesty.

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            Do you honestly think a military blockade is the way to get people on the side of your cause?

            I don’t think that at all, and that’s why China hasn’t resorted to this option.

            “After all the people I disagree with are got rid of” Do you honestly think that makes you the good guy? Removing political opponents is the methodology of authoritarians.

            Entire books have been written explaining in great detail how media is used to manipulate public opinion, and here you are bleating about AuThoRiTarIanS. 🤡

            You claim international law on one hand as if it means something and then threaten with the big stick with the other.

            Not sure what the contradiction in your mind is of a country enforcing its laws within its borders. You’ll have to enlighten us on this fascinating political theory of yours.

            Put simply, you’re an asshole.

            Put simply, you’re a cheap propagandist without a shred of intellectual honesty.

            Quoting for posterity. I think your last line really hits the nail on the head, though. Your projection has called you out.

            I’m not American nor have any loyalty to the Western hegemony. I’m an anarchist living in a country with its own independence movement attempting to get out from the boot of colonialism.

            When you’re finished your work for the day propagandising, I hope you go home and think on your morality. Think on who you are as a person. Is defending Chinese bullying, violence, and threat really the best thing you can be doing with your life?

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              I’m not American nor have any loyalty to the Western hegemony. I’m an anarchist living in a country with its own independence movement attempting to get out from the boot of colonialism.

              Anarchists are just edgy liberals, thanks for confirming that once again in this thread.

              When you’re finished your work for the day propagandising, I hope you go home and think on your morality. Think on who you are as a person. Is defending Chinese bullying, violence, and threat really the best thing you can be doing with your life?

              Hope you’ll take your own advice, but we both know you won’t. Clearly defending US colonialism is how you choose to spend your life. Peak anarchism right there.