Consumers cannot expect boneless chicken wings to actually be free of bones, a divided Ohio Supreme Court ruled Thursday, rejecting claims by a restaurant patron who suffered serious medical complications from getting a bone stuck in his throat.
Michael Berkheimer was dining with his wife and friends at a wing joint in Hamilton, Ohio, and had ordered the usual — boneless wings with parmesan garlic sauce — when he felt a bite-size piece of meat go down the wrong way. Three days later, feverish and unable to keep food down, Berkeimer went to the emergency room, where a doctor discovered a long, thin bone that had torn his esophagus and caused an infection.
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In a 4-3 ruling, the Supreme Court said Thursday that “boneless wings” refers to a cooking style, and that Berkheimer should’ve been on guard against bones since it’s common knowledge that chickens have bones. The high court sided with lower courts that had dismissed Berkheimer’s suit.
That’s fucking ridiculous though I think it’s perfectly fair for s restaurant not to be ultimately liable. This case feels like a gimmie to Perdue/Tyson to dodge any accountability for their bargin bin meat farming operations.
Its getting where courts at every level are running contrary to logic and justice.
Courts have become infested with conservatives.
So amazingly stupid. The conservative justic’s “logic” here is a case-study in failing upwards. He tries to say that “nobody would think that chicken fingers are actual fingers.” Like, chicken fingers is a colloquial name, and is not the same as a fuckin descriptor adjective. He might as well say that dairy-free ice cream can have dairy in it, because “no reasonable person would think ice cream wouldn’t have dairy in it.”
what a joke. This brought to you by the same supreme court that has ruled against the will of Ohio voters who voted for an anti-gerrymandering bill, just to have a republican led commission drag it’s feet, presenting identical maps, and instead of allowing the usage of an actual fair map, they just threw the baby out with bathwater, leaving in place the terrible gerrymandered maps that heavily favor republicans till 2030.
Just another reason I’ll never move back to my home state. conservatives ruined it.
We are talking chicken, not fish, right?
Fish of the land.
Boneless is a “cooking style?” No. It’s which bag of chicken I pull out of the freezer before I even turn the oven on. I’m not going to sous vide the fucking bones out of my wings.
If the restaurant is deboning wings to order, fine. I’ll accept that. But then that shit had better be on the menu so I know to be careful.
Boneless wings are usually breaded chunks of rib meat, not actually wings at all. Sometimes a cooking style starts with cutting raw meat off of bones and into don’t-call-them-nuggets.
So they’re not boneless, and they’re not wings… Yet it’s the customer’s fault for not knowing exactly what they’re eating?
Hmmm, I wonder why they didn’t know… Could it be the blatant lies on the packaging?
It’s just how the industry markets chicken nuggets to adults “these aren’t children’s chicken nuggets, they’re BONELESS WINGS for manly men who enjoy suicide hot sauce”
I am aware that it’s how they do it. What I’m saying is, I dunno, maybe they shouldn’t? Or more specifically, maybe we shouldn’t let them.
I think I’d be just fine if I went the rest of my life eating only non-blended chicken.
I’m gonna assume this is one of the Project 2025 legislations
If you choose boneless wings over the boney delicious alternative you kind of have it coming.
If you choose boney chicken wings over sucking dick three times of day for delicious human protein, you too should be stabbed in the throat.
I wonder how in the fuck some people just wake up one day and decide to themselves “today I’m gonna be retarded”.
today I’m gonna be retarded
Bunch of NEETs can’t recognize a joke when they see one, but yes I’m the one who is 'tarded.
Additionally, I’m totally ok with sucking dick for protein.
Good on ya, fish wrangler
I’ve always assumed boneless chicken wings are some sort of a scam. Then ordered once and discovered they’re not wings at all but pieces of chicken breast. Or a scam, since a breast taste differently than a wing. Do they actually remove the bones from wings somewhere?
No it’s literally just various pieces of meat cut up onto roughly wing-sized pieces. Bigger than popcorn chicken, smaller than tenders.
I don’t know, but if I were to venture a guess I would say they are made from dark meat that’s harder to sell than the wing. Just glue it together and frame it as an upgrade. $12 plate is now $20.
You know I’ve never gotten a discount for ordering dark meat? At this point I’m convinced it’s a myth.
Usually places just do an up charge if you only want white meat, with mixed and all dark usually being the base price.
Slavery is freedom. War is peace. Boneless pizza can now have bones.
I want to go where the pizzalo roam
If I order boneless wings, and I get bones, I’m getting my fucking money back and not eating at that establishment ever again.
Not full bones, though. Just shards of bone that can seriously injure you
I don’t know why but it reminds me of an American friend I had who couldn’t beleive we didn’t have limits on the amount maggots/maggots eggs allowed in fruit juice.
They refused to drink any fruit juice here until it had to be explained to them that the reason that there’s no acceptable limit on maggots/maggots eggs in our fruit juice is because ANY amount of maggot is over the acceptable amount.
Not their fault of course. We only know what we’re used to.
That doesn’t sound right. How can you guarantee zero fly/fruit fly eggs in something like orange juice with pulp. Fly eggs are tiny and can be found on fresh fruit skins even on the trees. Certain juices preclude the kind of filtration that could be used to achieve 100% fruit fly egg removal. I don’t know anything about European food regulations, but from a practical perspective it seems impossible to guarantee ZERO fruit fly egg contamination. Especially considering Europe tends to be more flexible with insects in food than the US such as Casu martzu.
I suspect if there really is no max insect parts limit, there is a procedural requirement that ensures contamination is kept low.
Well, thats because I never said its provably 100% free. No wonder it didn’t sound right.
I said no detectable level is acceptable.
We can detect single eggs. But they’re not putting the whole juice supply under the microscope, one slide at a time. So, it seems you’re saying “we don’t check”.
this is pressing political issues THAT ACTUALLY FUCKING MATTER RAHHHHHHH
Would this logic extend to products labeled “alcohol-free”?
“Everyone knows beer has alcohol in it.”
I’d be more worried about a product claiming it has no peanuts in it now.
Everyone knows Kinder Surprise eggs have a surprise inside. And show me anyone who can swallow that accidentally btw.
Sounds like the same logic ought to be extended to the Ohio Supreme Court. Might come in handy at the federal level, too.
“Everyone knows the court has corruption in it”
Anything less than 0.5%abv, I think. (Unless, non-alcoholic is classed different)
I wouldn’t know about US regulations. Just annoyed by laws which allow corporations to more or less straight up lie, be they in my country or not.
I’m pretty sure alc-free here in Finland is at most like 0.1%, low-alc (as in not counted as a regulated alcoholic beverage in regards to laws) is anything 2.9% and under.
I think part of it is that you honestly can’t say anything is “x” free. As long as the company has done due diligence and there is as little as possible then I’m ok with it.
If it’s used as a get out of jail card for bad practice then I’m against it.
Especially with alcohol. Anything with sugar will have at least a tiny amount of it ferment into alcohol. This is also why 0% BAC driving laws are nonsense.
That said, 0.1% might be perfectly reasonable over 0.5%.
True. The suffix -free has had so much liberal (not the party) use that when manufacturers use it, it now just means there isn’t enough for most people to detect/respond to it.
Now if someone none the wiser with an allergy or particularly strong sensitivity to something were to try that something, they get a trip to the ER.
About the limits in the US. Meandering through a store during a heat wave, I saw that the upper limit appears to be half a percent. Meaning you still could get buzzed ,just would be peeing more; a lot more.
https://oneclubsober.com/beer-articles/can-you-buy-non-alcoholic-beer-under-21/
Just wait until you hear about “synthetic” motor oil.
(It’s been made from regular petroleum sources for a long time. It was argued in court that “synthetic” refers to a certain level of quality, not that it’s actually built synthetically from something other than oil out of the ground.)
Ahh yes, another court in the pocket of corporations.
Some fat ass doesn’t chew his food and suddenly corporations win? You can never have perfection with organic products. What exactly do you want done to guarantee meat from a boned animal isn’t left in the meat? And how much will it cost to do it, and are you willing to pay for it?
I hope you choke on chicken bone while reading The Jungle. I hope for your last moments to be ironic.
I doubt it. I chew my food.
Then break a tooth when you bite too hard on a “boneless chicken”
Or what, you gonna say you chew slowly too?
It’s actually kinda fucking insane of you to take the side of “business should be allowed to flat out lie to you, even after it almost kills someone”. Maybe talk with a psychiatrist about your lack of empathy. There’s probably a diagnosis for your level of sociopathy
Seems the judges on two different levels sided with me.
“appeal to republican judges” has to be the worst variant of appeal to authority.
Legality isn’t morality, if your only defence to a moral charge is that it is legal then you are a wannabe slave owner born to the wrong time. Scum.
I’m just of the belief that it’s stupid to expect perfection from organic food sources.
Let’s be clear. Republican judges.
You should expect what you are paying for. They did pay for boneless, so they were willing to do so. Everything else ranges from false advertisement to negligence
I’m sure the restaurant stealing wages by making tips necessary can afford it.
And how much will it cost to do it, and are you willing to pay for it?
We are paying for it already. Now they can reduce their costs while keeping the price the same.
What kind of hail corporate nonsense is this? Either call it “fewer bones” or have it be without bones. I don’t expect it to be a certain price but I expect boneless chicken to be just as boneless as it is chicken.
boneless wings cost more, because the bone and gristle is removed. You’re paying extra for that removal. if it’s not done, then the FDA says you’re not allowed to call it boneless.
They’re from an entirely different part of the bird is why they don’t cost the same. They also don’t always cost more.
why do you even worry about it, this doesn’t interfere with your boot diet.
You can argue about if the guy should have noticed or not, that would be a factor in what he was awarded. But the lack of quality control needs to be addressed. This wasn’t a small bone, it was over an inch long. I am sure they have better ways, but sonic waves like a sonogram should be able to automatically detect that bone. And it’s very cheap. If your process doesn’t have a way to check for bones you just can’t call it boneless. Simple as that. If you have a way, and it misses a tiny tiny bone, that is one thing, but that is not what happened here. Also, the court system is messed up. If he hadn’t been injured, then he wouldn’t have been able to bring the case. You have to show your standing, as in your lose, to bring the case. And if it is below a certain amount you can only go to small claims court. So there could be bones in everyone of those boneless chicken wings. But until some one suffers enough financial loss, they can’t sue. That is why the specific individual doesn’t really matter here.
That’s a pretty ignorant take. "thing"less means without “thing”. Boneless means without bones. Without means there isn’t ANY in something.
THEIR process, which is not the customer’s problem to solve, should guarantee there are no bones left in any product labeled “boneless”, because that is how words and companies work…
You cost statement is irrelevant. It’s capitalism, baby! You make boneless stuff as advertised and set the price at what the market will accept. If your company can’t make “BONELESS” wings, then you don’t get to sell them until you figure out a cost effective way of doing it. Use a different word that isn’t a complete lie.
Judges can be bought and make stupid calls that only morons support…see also SCOTUS.
Buffalo wings aren’t made from real Buffalo, either. Hell, most Buffalo can’t even fly.
Oh sure. Next you’ll be telling me squid can’t fly.
Sorry, but you and others are just falling - with style!
Nope. We fly. We come with our own jet engine.
They are boneless however.
Yep, no bones. Just chitin. Terrifying chitin.
I hope you’re joking. Otherwise, you’re why boneless chicken wings can still have bones. 💀
Like the Hamburger, it has nothing to do with what’s in the food, but rather where they came from originally.
Oh yes, the Boneless region of France
If they don’t come from the Boneless region, they’re just sparkling nuggets.
I hope you’re joking.
They literally implied that some buffalo can fly.
Don’t get me started on Rocky Mountain Oysters
Where’s the shell? Idiots evolved it away or something?
