Tit loans please.
Can I loan a pair of DD’s for a few weeks. I’d like to see how they suit me.
Tit loans please.
Can I loan a pair of DD’s for a few weeks. I’d like to see how they suit me.
Even before that, we had formidable defence force.
Just us alone, with EU’s largest artillery, but on top of that, NORDEFCO and the defence clause of the EU.
But NATO is a bonus yeah.
Also when “conspiracy theory” automatically reads as “bullshit” to everyone, actual conspiracies get looked at less.
And to remind everyone “conspiracy” is just a plan by two or more people to commit a crime. A much more mundane term than what it’s current connotations would suggest.
Unless you’re a spy who ran from Russia (and basically not even then, as we have supo), why would that matter?
Unlike the US, Finland has and continues to successfully avoid Russia meddling in it’s affairs.
We got labour protection, social security and have among other things, fixed homelessness.
Yes, there’s a lot of issues as well, but compared to other countries, I’d say the average person is fairly well off in Finland in terms of financial security. Mental health is a whole other matter, though.
I’ll let anyone buy a Finnish residency. Just pay me a to-be-agreed-upon sum and then we’ll get married and it should be quite a done deal. Perhaps need to keep addresses the same on paper for a few years but that’s it.
Hit me with them offers.
Isn’t linked?
That’s just wrong. Correlation is a link. The long term high dose use of any CNS depressant correlates with actual depression (the psychological issue [I added the brackets because you seemed to miss when I specified the difference earlier.])
Oh wow, an anecdotal story, well that just proves what you’re saying is 100% correct.
Science couldn’t possibly disagree
“Pure” psychedelics like LSD and psilocybin rarely cause any sort of abuse, really, but I’ve been on a drug abuse closed ward and the manic people were generally in there because of CNS stimulants of all sorts. Psychedelics are just less likely to yield any long-lasting harmful effects compared to say smoking crack or snorting meth.
So yeah, while a CNS depressant isn’t the a thing that directly causes psychological depression as such, you can probably see how they’re linked from the following analogy; imagine that I tie your legs together. That doesn’t remove your ability to walk, per se, as long as you remove the restraints. But if no-one removes them for 50 years, do you think you’d walk as well as before?
In much the same way, yes, CNS depressants are linked to depression, and alcohol and benzos are the clearest examples.
Abuse of any psychoactive drug on the regular leads to depression.
That’s a biased generalisation.
While abusers of psychedelics are rare, they’re generally manic and psychotic moreso than depressed.
Yes, depression can be caused by any addiction and abusing stims can cause a lack of neurotransmitter due to exhausting the resources for the body to do so.
It’s a bit different than using something that’s a direct depressant though.
Alcohol is a depressant my man.
Neurologically speaking, so in a different context, yeah, but neurological depression also seems to lead to actual depression, the mood disorder, which also show up as neurological depression.
We really need better imaging tools to measure neurotransmitter activity, would make for several advancements I’d say
The main advancement of capitalism was the rich handing their knights to the state
Seriously, why do people think capitalism = market economy?
How hard is it to understand that capitalism is only a single form of market economies, and literally the worst one?
Capitalism didn’t bring down the concept of divine right, ffs.
Only to be CEO of a massive capitalist company.
I’ve heard a few tales of some CEO’s (of very small companies) here in the Nordics actually being generous to their employees. Like it’s most definitely a rarity, but I believe it is possible.
Like a CEO who values profits but values employees and paying their fair share more and isn’t blinded by greed and addicted to money. A socialist, literally. A market socialist, but a socialist nonetheless.
Everyone could have their basic needs met, and we could still have rich people. Just not filthy rich, not “rich-to-the-point-no-one-else-has-anything” rich.
When poor people put others in danger and/or exploit things for financial benefit, they go to prison.
Stop giving fines for big companies and actually start putting people in fucking prison.
Bring back the gestapo already.
You forgot the “/s”. Please, it’s important in these times.
Again, skipping 95% of the reply, but still you feel the need to answer.
That’s rather weird.
How would Russia attacking Finland “divide Europe”?
Ukraine had no defense cooperation with any country, yet people still think Finland is in a similar situation, and like you, always willfully ignore NORDEFCO and the EU.
Paralysed from the neck down.
Then how am I gonna run the marathon?
So you’re saying you have no free will whatsoever, but despite whatever happens, the prophecy will be true?
That I could never drive an older car pretty much, because it’s easy to kill yourself with one. Much less a motorbike without a helmet.
I can never hold anything sharp which could cut the jugular. Couldn’t manage to go swimming, because diving deep and inhaling would somehow have to fail?
Either the prediction is bullshit, oooor it gives you magical plot armor (unless it’s extremely vague, but that goes against OP’s description),
Please show me where I make just a hint about that, I have not written ANYTHING about the Finish defense capabilities.
Ok:
Finland could be overrun before a decision was made in EU to even do anything.
“Our lacking ability to supply Ukraine without USA”. It’s not about the lack of ability. It’s about Ukraine not being in EU, so direct military aid, and especially troops is harder to send. Our militaries aren’t designed to be overflowing with equipment we can just donate away, so it takes a bit of time to see what can be taken and from where. EU is now, afaik, making seized Russian assets available to Ukraine, and getting money to buy armament with is quite as important as getting armament. Even more so, because with money you can also buy non-armament supplies, which are also needed.
Finland has never trusted Russia. Sweden tried to, a bit, by generously demilitarising Gotland, up until it had to rearm it a few years back because after there was no military there, suddenly Russian tourists of military serving age started “touring” it. Now there’s a permanent base again.
might have a chance to divide both Europe and NATO, and Finland could be such an area to poke.
What are you on about? Do you know how the Winter War and the Continuation War played out? How would Russia attacking Finland “divide” Europe, unless you’re implying that Russia is a part of Europe, because we were more discussing in the context of the European Union, not Europe in general. European Union is very strong and there’s articles that have been agreed to. International politics don’t really work with the “no I’m not gonna, because I don’t wonna” attitude.
You’re severely underestimating Finland’s defenses pre joining NATO. And that (usually American) cockiness is exactly why a lot of people still oppose NATO.
C4 is the easiest for this example. I can definitely manage explosives. You can rather easily make things which blow up.
Let’s make this easier then, I go to the woods and set up a huge fucking boulder on an elaborate pulley system (don’t worry about me finding them, I live in Finland were boulders and rocky surfaces are a plenty. My cousins actually operate a gravel business, so they have lots of proper gear for breaking rocks into smaller rocks, and vehicles to do those things with. So let’s say there’s a pit. I lay a ton of harsh gravel on the bottom of it, a proper few meter layer. Then I take a loader full of massive boulders. And another. And a third one. Place them around the pit. Place myself in the pit, and remotely activate the loaders to drop all those boulders on me. Oh and I didn’t mention, but I put a bed in the pit with me. It’s a bed of extremely sharp knives, covered by a thin cardboard so I don’t get stabbed if I easy myself onto it. On top of that, there’ another bed, upside down, also loaded with insanely sharp swords. All of the boulders will fall into the pit, crushing the bed system, which stabs and slices me into pieces while the boulders to the rest of the work. (The bed frames are soft enough so that they can hold knives, but will be utterly deformed by the boulders so they won’t stay in the way.
Then I’ve also paid for a crazy cousin to empty both barrels of a shotgun to my face with a full metal slug right as the stones start dropping.
But… I’ll survive?
It’s not a binding agreement. It’s based on voluntary cooperation, as is with quite clear letters in the name. But is is most definitely purely for defence cooperation. To challenge that would be silly.
Why’d you skip over 95% of the comment?
Where did you sit your lessons on Finnish military capability, especially in regards to a war with Russia?
Mine were in the Pori Brigade, and Häme Regiment for my special training.
And the EU article is a very clear defence pact.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/EN/legal-content/glossary/mutual-defence-clause.html
Please, do respond to the other points. I’m interested.
Did you also skip the part where I was completely right about the support numbers? Probably because I actually live here, and you had to quickly just Google something?
I do not think you understand the strategic danger Finland would be in without NATO
Well I’ve sat actual lessons on it in the army, from people who’s literal job is defending this country.
Where are you getting your info from?
The point is that a majority of Finns saw no need of NATO even when we had shittier equipment for our military and no military alliances. Now we’re in NORDEFCO and the EU. We’ve the advantage when defending, especially with our utilisation of our geography and the biggest and most accurate artillery in Europe.
With an arsenal of 700 howitzers, 700 heavy mortars and 100 multiple rocket launchers, Finland has the largest artillery capability in western Europe. Homeland defence willingness against a superior enemy is at 83%, one of the highest rates in Europe.
Nordefco is definitely not a defense pact
What on Earth are you smoking, my man? That’s literally all it is.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Defence_Cooperation
Just the combined power of the Nordic countries would be pretty significant against Russia. Swedes rule the Baltic Sea, we hold the border with Russia, and Norway holds the North, with tons of cooperation that’s been practiced for decades (Official Finnish Defence Forces channel) .
And if Russia attacked an EU country, every member nation is required to assist?
The Treaty of Lisbon strengthens the solidarity between European Union (EU) Member States in dealing with external threats by introducing a mutual defence clause (Article 42(7) of the Treaty on European Union). This clause provides that if a Member State is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other Member States have an obligation to aid and assist it by all the means in their power, in accordance with Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations.
"… by all means in their power. "
That means military aid, troops, for those who can. France, Germany, UK, Poland, everyone.
This is why we can’t send troops to Ukraine, because that could be seen as an aggressive move by the EU against Russia. But if Russia attacked Finland, or any other member of the EU, Russia would be practically declaring war with them all.
Ukraine is a big country, yes, but compared to the entire EU, it’s something Russia dares to challenge.
It wouldn’t dare to challenge the European fucking Union.
It’s amazing you feel you need to mention you are not anti NATO, being anti NATO as an NCO in the Finnish reserves, would be insane now IMO.
How so? A majority of Finnish males are in the reserves, and I remind you that as we saw from the Yle article you linked, before 2022, most Finns were opposed to NATO.
We’re not so authoritarian that we demand people can’t have their own opinions.
~75% of Finnish males go through the service and thus are in the reserves up until they’re 55-65 (NCO’s and officers remain in the reserves 10 years longer.)
It’s alway fun talking to some American who thinks their military equals NATO (one of the reasons NATO wasn’t so popular here) and think they’re some knight in shining armor saving a damsel in distress.
Sorry bruv, but American troops wouldn’t manage shit in Finland.
A group of conscripts from a supply group (ie a group of cooks, basically, who get six months of training) defeated a USMC group in an exercise here in Finland.
https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/65e5530a-2149-41bd-b509-54760c892dfb
Oh fuck that’s paywalled.
https://www.quora.com/Did-the-Finnish-military-just-beat-the-US-Marines-in-Cold-Response
That’s better.
You should be more open to what you don’t know instead of assuming you do.
Those are like K or L cups lol.