Fine the CEO, not to the company. He has to take responsibility.
And put him in jail
Fine the company. Take the capital (which will have to serve the community), fine and jail the executives!
Companies are as accountable as the executives.
Fine? Arrest and jail.
When poor people put others in danger and/or exploit things for financial benefit, they go to prison.
Stop giving fines for big companies and actually start putting people in fucking prison.
Don’t be poor, problem solved!
Government can’t be too hard on Boeing, critical space and defense programs are at risk. I wish it was sarcasm.
In my opinion, the US federal government can/should be able take over Boeing temporarily in cases of felony or federal offenses perpetrated by executive personnel for the duration of the criminal investigation and trial.
Captain.
Question: should whistleblowers get Snowden Award(if such existes)?
People have died due to the greed and corruption of the leadership of Boeing. The people at the top have in fact gotten huge financial rewards by taking actions that were likely to kill people. There is no mechanism in US society to hold these people accountable. Are they going to get put in prison? Nope! Are they going to be PERSONALLY fined? Nope!
I really dislike how in Chinese society people are not able to criticize the government. I hope one day, everyone everywhere will have free speech. It’s unfortunate to say this, but in China, this would be dealt with severely and and with impact. I am not saying their mechanism is right, but the US has no mechanism at all. We all know nothing will happen, especially because most of the deaths were foreigners. It’s disgusting and makes the US look bad.
This is why ancient humans invented mob justice. When the laws don’t work, order still needs to be imposed.
Exactly this. In ancient Roman times, emperor Caracalla was infamous for having many of his enemies outright killed. One of these was the brother of a soldier who was assigned to his personal guard at the Rhine border regions. When Caracalla got off his horse for a piss, he got a gladius thrusted between his ribs. For all his might and power, he very much brought that on himself.
Sometimes people like that soldier are the last line of justice in the world.
No real investigation. No punishment. Same Shit Different Day.
How the f do you even start killing people for this? I mean the PR crisis that follows an assassination makes everything way worse doesn’t it?
It’s what he’s paid for
Bad PR comes and he takes the fall of stepping down with an exit package then everyone is happy
Nobody’s fucking happy about any of this. They killed a person for speaking up about something that affects almost everyone.
I suppose I am a bit more cynical than you
There are people who have a lot riding on the line going up (often the same people in high positions in the organisation)
All these whistleblowers make the line go down
Of the people psychopathic enough to accumulate enough wealth to have a significant stake in Boeing, there’s going to be a percentage who are full-psychopath.
It’s what unabated greed looks like
Let’s also not forget those lucrative NASA and Military contracts. A lot of private and public money riding on this.
You only kill a whistleblower if you’re confident that they would have said something worse in court. It’s almost guaranteed to be front page news.
Exactly this. Whatever those whistleblowers knew must have been so damning, that committing two murders was better publicity.
Big fucking yikes - wonder what the play is here?
Trying to get in front of the train instead of roped into it ?
Either way, more evidence of the psychopathy that is big business in the states, and a byproduct of late state capitalism
wonder what the play is here?
Sometimes even the sociopaths slip up and accidentally tell the truth.
This just shows you how much of amateur this guy. If he doesn’t know you just lie lie lie what’s he doing being a CEO?
He is not lying because his counsel advised him that trick won’t here. They are doing damage minimization.
This clown should be prosecuted for murder tho
Seriously! Maybe he’s trying to play the honesty card in hopes that people see it as being transparent and we should trust him, but this is admission of guilt and willful negligence that lead to death. The guy should be charged and locked up.
Quick, prepare the wrist-slapping fines!
Do you mean “award them more fat defense contacts??” Cuz that’s what we’re gonna do!
United States Senate be like pull those sleeves up slightly, bad boy!
Much too harsh for this gold-domed “too important to really hold to account” CEO. Perhaps a mildly stern, yet askance look (or two, if the crowd rumbles for more)
These fellows are going to get slammed and blasted by Congress, it might spoil up to a few minutes of their time on the yacht.
Maybe even Torched!
The total energy of the strong finger wagging that follows this admission will be enough to power a flashlight for 2 milliseconds.
Retaliated against is a funny way to say killed
Imagine killing a man and then saying this…
“I may have committed some light murder.”
Not a big deal, he was kinda asking for it!
Look what he’s wearing!
Points to whistle
Prolly let his other CEO hit it without any complaints!
why are people in this thread acting as if he’s just admitted to ordering hits on whistleblowers
We obviously haven’t read the article, yet feel entitled to comment on it all the same! /s bc not having read it myself, I just presume that’s the case 🤣.
More importantly, why are you surprised at that?
Social media is more about feelings than facts, especially when it comes to precision in the details - the barrier to speak is very low, on purpose, to allow us to vent our frustrations at the world being unfair and corrupt and twisted.
In this case it is fairly understandable - he is a very bad man who did very bad things. He has now admitted to a subset of the badness, and people wish that he had gone further to admit it all, so people talk as if that were the case.
Again, that’s just my guess, but we cannot control the world, only ourselves.
We will never know if Boeing did it… But we do know how these companies are, so I am just assuming this they did until proven otherwise.
You can always count the corpo trash to do crime… 24/7
1% CEO of one of the largest companies in the military industrial complex.
Might have something to do with the whistle blowers dying mysteriously
To be fair only the first was a surprise mysterious suicide.
The second was sick for years and died because of that.Even the 1st wasn’t that mysterious if you read more than headlines. John very likely did kill himself. He had already lost his civil suit against Boeing for damages. Was trying to appeal that case. It very likely wasn’t going anywhere. Because if he had a case Boeing could have quietly settled before the initial trial.
The case also had nothing to do with current Boeing practices as John retired in 2017. John was suing for defamation.
Is thia a PR release from Boeing lol
This is not correct, he was in normal health until after he became a whistleblower and then he got MRSA and died in 2 weeks.
That shit happens, that’s almost exactly how one of my grandparents died but minus the whistleblower part.
Yeah it’s pretty low odds though.
Tell me again why we need to be fair to executives that murdered 340+ people to save money on training and certifications for their new plane?
Because it’s the right thing to do.
Well if we were treating them fairly they’d be in prison.
Absolutely! And we wouldn’t have to speculate or exaggerate or misrepresent to so.
Now we’re on the same page!
“Retaliate”
And yet, still CEO I see…
No they fired him, but he’s staying on till they find a replacement. (He did get millions of dollars to boot though)
Oh… I thought they had someone already and this was him, sorry - I edited my comment to apologize for misinformation, thanks for the update!:-)
well anyways he will probably become CEO of another company or find another way to float to the top. his greed might even be seen as a positive trait by other companies.
And apparently NOT in jail at this time
Military-industrial contracts… I doubt he will ever face consequences that he does not choose for himself. :-|
You spelled assassinate wrong, dude
You are invited to a meeting Agent X/Whistleblower Coffee chat.
Going? Yes/No/Maybe
I don’t know
Can you repeat the question?
You’re not the boss of me now!
And you’re not so big!
My indecisive ass would still hit “maybe”
Location: outside 7th floor
Could this just be an email? I’ve already got enough on my plate.
David Calhoun apologized to the families of Boeing crash victims, saying the manufacturer was “totally committed” to future saftey improvements, as he began testimony at the committee on Tuesday.
Cue South Park investment banker apology.
Also, “saftey”? Seriously, Independent?
Do you mean South Park’s BP apology? The investment banker is the “…and it’s gone!” thing.
I did mean the BP apology, good catch.
That’s the… first… thing… that’s… ever gone wrong.
We know, they’re fucking dead.
