Just in case you missed it: there have been serious accusations against Till Lindemann, the singer of Rammstein, recently. Apparently his band managers contact young female Rammstein fans on social media before concerts, inviting them to secret after show parties where they get lots of alcohol and Till can choose one to drug even more and take to bed with him. Multiple women have come forward with similar claims and the social media thing has been well documented as far as I know. The case went to court but was dropped because there wasn’t enough proof and now he acts like nothing ever happened. I think everyone listening to the band should know about this.
There was this whole “row zero” controversy. They definitely bang their groupies after the shows. All those “rock and pop stars” do that. Part of their success story is that they promote their own “sex and drugs and rock’n roll” lifestyle. So I don’t understand all those surprised Picachu faces if we find out sex and drugs are part of their lifestyle. This does not mean that anybody is allowed to roofie their groupies. But this also has more or less obviously not happened. If you dig into what the groupies have posted, you find a lot of stuff like: I wanted to bang Til or Kruspe but when I woke up the next morning after a night of binge drinking and snorting stuff I was next to Flake. Flake is the ugly, skinny, clownesque keyboarder of Ramstein and those groupies who end up being bedded by him are probably ashamed and regretting their decisions. Seriously: If you are a grown up woman and voluntarily become a part of row zero and follow the band to their hotel and then grrt drunk and stuff happens: You might “share” a bit of the responsibility. The bit being about 100%
Great. removed by mods. So much for freedom of speech at this sub.
Assuming consent in general, the only illegal part was
Till can choose one to drug even more
Drunk and drugged people can’t consent.
Ah yes, the only illegal part is the rape.
I judge people on plenty of things that are legal. You probably do it too
Rock stars, groupies, parties and drugs are as old as music itself.
Consent is the only issue here.
“Hey he only raped someone! Leave him alone already. Also other people also did it before.”
This is what you sound like.
Besides your point beeing incredibly idiotic, there is also way more to the story, like abuse of power. If you bring somone behind 3 lines of massive bouncers and take their phones away basically nothing you do afterwards has anything to do with consent.
So all bands should allow phones backstage and have no bouncers?
Consent is the key issue here, for both drugs and sex. I’m making no apologies for anyone who abuses either.
Rock stars, groupies, parties and drugs are as old as music itself.
That doesn’t apply to having a team that does sex casting on social media for the artist though.
Disagree. I don’t see why someone’s popularity is relevant.
The only thing of importance is freely given consent.
Well the court case went by innocent, because none of the women who claimed to be drugged showed up.
You can make with that information what you want.
I wonder how someone is supposed to defend themselves against accusations when even a lack of evidence is not enough for people.
While the allegations are serious, we cannot keep spreading rumors that have not been shown true. It’s a work for the justice system to determine the guilt. Obviously I am against sexual abuse, but social media is not a justice system and there is a huge risk for innocent to be lynched.
Maybe But row zero alone is enough reason for me to say fuck them
Be cause no rock star ever sought out consensual sex.
Probably an accusation created by the FBI because Rammstein made a song about America. /shrug
As others already pointed out, none of the woman accusing Lindemann was willing to go to court with their claims. Even tho, that so far it looks like everything he did was legal you can still talk about him absuing the power he has over his fans. I kinda doubt, that a lot of girls would say no, if a 40 year older rock superstar asks for sex. Legally speaking she may gave her consent, but morally I think that he devinetively abused his power and status.
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one s. hast not hasst.
If you want a more accurate translation/explanation of the lyircs: Hast and hasst are homophones. Hast means have and hasst means hate. At the start, it sounds like it’s “du hasst mich” (you hate me,) because the alternative doesn’t make sense. But then when gefragt is added, the past tense of ask, it becomes “you have asked me.”
“Und ich hab nichts gesagt” means “and I said nothing.” Nein should be translated to no, but otherwise it’s pretty much just wedding vows. That translation is not literal, but that’s to be expected for songs.
Lyrical lore
Something I learned fairly early in German class.
Also, I believe that the final verse is a very different translation than what the word-by-word translation would be. My german is rusty af but I believe it would translate to “will you be together until the pussy is dead, and love her also in the worse days”. And the fun part is that the lines are only a slight deviation from the typical wedding vows. “Tod euch scheidet” would be “Death does you apart” and “Tod der Scheide” is “Death of the split (or slang for pussy)”
Oh cool - thanks
So do people care about not being able to understand lyrics? (I can rarely understand English ones anyway.)
I like to know the meaning but normally just sing the closest english words like “the genies in the food court” from one of gogol bordello’s songs
You just understand them in your own way.
When this first came out, we interpreted it as:
Who? Who has? Who has fish? Who has fish from France?
Do hats fit my frog?
They do his is Zog!Works the other way around as well. When I was a teen, I though Rage Against The Machine’s “Killing in the Name” was asking where their sneakers are.
And now you do what they told ya
Ey Mann, wo issen mein Turnschuh?
“Dude, where is my sneaker (just one of the pair)”
As someone who has German as their second and English as their third language, I’ve never misunderstood that line like that. That’s hella funny though.
That’s brilliant! Are there any other songs which do similar?
Who has fish from France? it’s my uncle Matt
Personally, I prefer things I don’t understand because I don’t have to mentally deal with whatever bullshit they are saying. I can sing it a thousand times without ever thinking too much about it because I know the sounds and not the meaning of the words.
I can belt out a ton of Japanese or Russian music, because I started listening to help my language learning (classes, not self-guided), but I don’t actually understand the songs. I “know the words”, but that’s it.
I find the opposite works fine: I don’t have to know the exact words, but I doo look up the translation to know what the song is actually about.
I like to be able to sing along to songs when I’m alone in the car, so even if I don’t understand the meaning of the words, I like to know the words.
I also enjoy word play, and Du Hast has some of that. So knowing the bit of trivia about ‘Hast’ and ‘Hasst’ being homophones in German and meaning ‘have’ and ‘hate’ respectively, and the main portion of the lyrics being wedding vows adds a layer of enjoyment to the song for me.
du rule
Shouldn’t it be in caps?
Do
Do hats
Do hats fit
Do
Do hats
Do hats fit
Do
Do hats
Do hats fit
Do
Do hats
Do hats fit
Do
Do hats
Do hats fit
Do hats fit
Do hats fit my frog?
Do hats fit my frog?
Do hats fit my frog?
They do. His name is Zog!
I’ve been going to the store
How many hats should I buy for him?
Ahhhhhh, NINE!
Ahhhhhh, NINE!
I’ve been going to the store
How many hats should I buy for him?
Ahhhhhh, NINE!
Ahhhhhh, NINE!
Do-do-du-loot-doot-dinna-lunna-loot! Dinnuna-oota-loot!
Fine…I’ll listen to Dave Matthew’s Band again…
du hast mich gefragt
und ich hab nichts gesagt.
Willst du, bis der Tod euch scheidet
Treu ihr sein für alle Tage?
Aaaaaaaaah! NEIN!
Aaaaaaaaah! NEIN!
Wir haben es machen, Lemmy!
Du
Du hast
Du hast es
Du hast es gemacht
Nein
