One of the biggest topics of these days is that of mods in lemmy.ml banning and censoring people because they’re Tankies. This has had a rather sizeable discussion of people agreeing and even arguing for defederating ml. I’m sure a lot of people are arguing from good intentions, but there’s also bad faith actors among them, as I will try to show in this post. The original post was based on the moderation history of the ml instance so I respond in a similar fashion.
I browsed through the discussion for a while, and stumbled upon a comment of someone who had created an instance in response, namely de_ml@lemmy.blahaj.zone The original post in about the moderation in ml has to do with the Tiananmen Square Massacre, so I decided to make a few posts in this new instance about other historical facts which are less discussed, but that we should remember too, namely the Bengal Famine and the US support of fascism in Spain.
Initially these posts were well received and had some upvoted, but after a while I got a notification that one of them had been banned. To my surprise, I looked at the mod log of the instance and found this. So, both posts being about historical atrocities committed by capitalist countries were either banned or locked, and I had been banned from the community altogether for the reason “commie?”
I checked through the admin’s history of comments and found this.
Is this admin, who censors posts that talk about historical grievances committed by capitalism, who pins “fuck Tankies” to the instance, really a person without an agenda trying to protect a community from a supposed malignant moderation, or is it someone with an agenda trying to call everyone to the left of centrism a Tankie?
We should, in my opinion, be careful with accusing and polarising one of the biggest communities in Lemmy away, which is full of non-political content, and really examine what’s going on and what agenda there is behind it.
As I said, I was the first post in the community, I’m not going to an established community with a topic to troll them, I’m going there to express other grievances that are equally important to remember in my opinion.
How is commie=tankie? This is exactly my point, the word “tankie” is so abused in lemmy.world that anything to the left of centrism is categorised as such.
“Tankie is when you post anti-US imperialism”. Again, absolutely misusing the word and accusing everyone who posts any complaint about western imperialism of being a tankie.
Good concern, I’m not, I’m actually new to Lemmy, and I’m very surprised to find the word “tankie” in every fourth comment, used most times to refer to anyone who doesn’t buy “US good China bad”
And, again, linking communism with being a tankie when you say “a reference to Lenin makes it suspicious”. People don’t have to preface every leftist commentary with a 10-page essay condemning the failures of historical communist projects any more than people criticising Hitler don’t have to preface the commentary with a 10-page essay on the atrocities committed by allies in WW2.
Tankie is when you spam anti-US imperialism on inappropriate communities.
Why would you co-opt a random community to spam off topic shit? That makes even less sense?? You just felt compelled to post anti-US stuff in a random empty community? Why?
As said on the post, there were no guidelines on the sidebar and no posts in the community, so by whose standards is it inappropriate. Spreading anticapitalist propaganda doesn’t make someone a tankie ffs
You said they pinned “fuck tankies” to the sub. (Not an instance btw)
You know the sub is called “de_ml”
You obviously know what it’s about, that’s part of your point, that it’s an anti-tankie sub. But then you want to have it both ways.
Who are you trying to fool?
As you can see on the modding history, that was done after my ban. As I explained, that post wasn’t there when I posted, my post was the first in the sub and there were no guidelines.
And no, I didn’t know it was an “anti-tankie” sub, “de_ml” implies pushing against ml.
So you can understand then why posts about the crimes of British and US imperialism are off-topic there, right?
Like, I don’t expect much here, but you’ve given me this little hint that you could in theory understand if you wanted to. I don’t think you do though, do you?