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If you have any questions or comments about me, you can make a post to LW Support lemmy community.I just love the pivot America has done with Kamala… she went from the worst VP ever, not even liked by her own party or Liberals… to the most awesomest candidate ever!
So he said that she used to identify as Indian, but now she identifies as black.
Also, why is the media prodominantly calling her Black, and not acknowledging her Indian heritage?
Because black is a buzzword for the oppression Olympics to the left, they blindly praise and cheer that term.
Her being Indian and only talking about her Indian side for most of her life is now irrelevant as it’s not as popular.
Being a certain race is a popularity contest now? Which race is judging this contest I wonder?
Typically the white liberal, they are obsessed which is why this is a talking point to begin with.
No, ignore her (lack of) merit, focus on the fact she is (half) black! Applause
White people on the left
Also, why is the media prodominantly calling her Black, and not acknowledging her Indian heritage?
Because Trump did not deny her Indian heritage at this event. This is not a difficult concept, you should not need the idea of “context” to be explained to you.
They call her Black on every media channel. Very rarely do they mention anything about her Indian heritage. Why? Cause being a black woman is more popular. It’s all about image to them.
Just gonna point out that your obsession with the syntax of headlines is kinda weird.
Oh my God dude, she’s both. Why is that so hard to understand? How are you this stupid
Try re-reading the head line of this post . They exclusively call her Black. Trump was pointing out that she is also Indian.
Edit: do you feel dumb now by proving my point?
Trump was pointing out that she is also Indian.
This is not what I saw, he was claiming she only identified as Indian and now suddenly is black. He presented it as a ‘flip’ on race identification. So no ‘also’ was meant here, you are injecting soft wording to cover up something, what it is I can only guess at. You do seem obsessed by what race Kamala is though. And not out of interest either it seems, you are presenting some weird obsessive line where Kamala is lying about or dismissing some part of her heritage?
What could be your driver to be so obsessed by what was presented to you by a racist guy and feel the need to run with that racist lying twisted line?
I don’t care about her race. It’s the interviewer who was very much pushing an agenda that she was a Black woman
Why lie when everyone can see your profile moron
I don’t care about her race
Yes you do, you are all over the comments pushing this Indian thing. You are hung-up on this for some odd, might I say weird, reason.
very much pushing an agenda that she was a Black woman
Not what I saw. This was an event organized by black journalists at an NABJ conference. Of course they will hone in on the ‘black part’ of Kamala as she has always identified as Indian and black. It makes 100% sense in that setting to ask the proven racist to account for himself on past expressions towards black people. Trump tried to muddy the waters by claiming she never ever identified as black, only as Indian. That is wrong and racist. You throw yourself all over the place to try and see if Trump had a point, something deep down you must know to be a false claim.
You are seen as normalizing the reprehensible behavior of Trump with your posts. Do with this information what you will.
I am done trying to argue, reason or spend time with someone who takes the position as you have done. Have a great day!
Y’all need to realize conservatives just aren’t honest people, and the only way to reason with them is to throw a brick at their head.
Because she is black and Indian. Living in America, most people are going to identify her as a black person, so she gets all the great shit that comes along with that. Since when has being a black women been popular? They’re one of the most mistreated people and being a black woman is hard as fuck.
You nailed it! “Being a black woman is hard as fuck” That is the liberal strategy
The liberal strategy was to oppress black women for 250 years?
… so they could finally consider one for president but only after the corpse of a white dude finally gave in… real devilish plan, that is!
well i mean. Mixed people are a weird group.
They can often “toe the line” in a social sense, being able to fit in with a white group, or a black group more easily. Whether or not this is what’s happening here is a different story. But socially, i think there’s something to be said about it.
Fundamentally, you fit in less with any given group, so you’re more likely to be around more broader influence and likewise have less specific influence from any one group. Social cliques are likely to form around you, not with you for a similar reason. In a way, you’re sort of alienated from the group, though arguably not in a bad way, since you can sort of fit into any group available. Which makes you more flexible socially, which is obviously advantageous for something like, politics for example.
The tricky part here, is whether or not this is actually happening, and if it is happening, subconscious racism, or just broader social theory (which argues that similar people coalesce into a group, and by virute of being a different ethnicity, you also have a different culture (thats partially how ethnicity works) so it would be expected that some form of social clique would form.
alright, i’m too fucking tired to keep posting this kind of shit on the internet, don’t kill me in my sleep, please.
oh and for the people who struggle with reading comprehension sometimes, like myself, this isn’t racism, obviously. This is just some sociological pondering.
i’m too fucking tired to keep posting this kind of shit on the internet
At least you recognize that what you’re saying is shit. You can always stop.
You can always stop.
stop what? Thinking about inter ethnic dynamics? Europeans aren’t exactly known for always liking other europeans. There’s also the whole “eastern europe” problem, which is argubaly a hold over of soviet era discrimination of the block countries.
I’m sure the irish like the british, surely they would never have anything bad to say about them.
You can always stop … posting this shit. You know, the rest of your comment I quoted.
You’re going off about unrelated things, and maybe you don’t need to actually post that. Sometimes it can just stay a thought.
yeah, but that’s boring though, isn’t the whole point of the internet posting stupid shit for shitposting reasons or just incoherent train of thought rambling?
Seems more productive than spreading misinformation and ideological biases that are actually negatively influential on society.
Sometimes it’s important to sit down and think about shit, even if it’s stupid.
Have you considered that you might be the one spreading misinformation and negative biases?
no, but that’s also because i don’t tell anybody to believe anything i say.
I’m literally here to kill time, why would you put any conviction behind half the shit i say without being a little bit independent and capable of figuring things out on your own.
Part of the reason i do this is to make an example of the fact that people can just post shit on the internet, i could literally just make some shit up, and you would believe me.
I don’t think people believe you, based on the down votes you’ve received.
I also don’t think people need examples of “shit”. It makes the comment section worse, which seems weird to do to a place you want to participate in. You have a choice to be better.
Mixed people are a weird group.
They can often “toe the line” in a social sense, being able to fit in with a white group, or a black group more easily
Yes, historically it is well known that racist are more tolerant of mixed race people /s
Yes, historically it is well known that racist are more tolerant of mixed race people /s
well i mean yeah, historically, but i dont recall about speaking historically.
So despite all evidence to the contrary, surely this is the exact moment in time when it has become easier for mixed race people?
are you arguing that racism hasn’t changed at all since historical accounts of racism?
I mean, i don’t think i fundamentally disagree, but considering i was never talking about racism in the first place, im not sure how much this matters.
Speaking of ethnically relevant group social behaviors, china is a prime example of this. They have a certain type of behavior around foreigners, since they aren’t very common and chinese society is largely homogeneous, even including the existing minority racism that’s going on in china, those are more closely related to the broader populous than an american, for example.
you see similar things around other societies as well, this is extremely prominent among remote tribes and groups of people living in places the general populous doesn’t live. Interaction between the two is often, very weird.
considering i was never talking about racism in the first place
I guess that’s hard to respond to considering your post was removed by moderators. I’m sure that has nothing to do with racist speech in the post and was completely unrelated and unjustified.
Oh ok guys did you see at the end he said that actually wasn’t racism, so… Phew.
What a relief.
yeah, good thing otherwise i may have been racist, good thing i made sure i wasn’t though.
So she’s too black to be president and not black enough to be black.
Right… What a racist weirdo.
Many people are saying he’s the weirdest. Tremendous amounts of people are saying it.
Also a rapist.
And a fraud. And a felon. Who shits himself a lot.
Yeah, but none of that bothers his supporters as much as calling him weird. Which is pretty weird if you ask me.
Maybe it’s because they’re weird too? Which is also a bit weird. Do we still call them Trumpers or just weirdos?
I’ve been pointing out how fuckin weird it is to care about half the shit they care about for years. I work blue collar so I’ve learned to keep my thoughts and beliefs to myself (it’s too much fuckin work otherwise), but every now and then I’d chime in with a “Why should the GOVERNMENT care about what consenting adults do?” or “Why should the GOVERNMENT have the power to dictate women’s health care?” etc
It works quite well if you point out the obvious disconnect between wanting “small government” and feeling like the State should be their personal nanny/drill sergeant. I’ve had quite a few stereotypical conservative guys go “hey yeah that is kinda weird, fuck the gubmint”. They’re also typically fans of my case that I don’t care what color tie a politician wears, a crook is a crook. They nod solemnly, then leave before that reaches its natural conclusion.
My two cents
True, it is bugging them.
I’m still sticking with rapist and fraud since they’ve been proven in a court of law.
If weird were illegal, Trump would have been in jail since calling columnists, pretending to be someone else, to get it out that he was hot property in his dating life. I don’t see anything that has changed.
In Trump’s first election run, Trump continually stole the light by saying the weirdest thing possible. All the attention was on Trump, while the entire field of serious candiDates were out-rizzed, by the weirdest guy in the Republican field.
Now, he is just a creepy, weird old guy that needs diapers.
To be clear, if someone needs diapers - that sucks and that’s nothing to hassle anyone about. Unless they’re (supposedly) a billionaire, unfathomably vain, an enormous sociopath, an asshole, a rapist, and a convicted fraud, who pose a true existential threat to America and the planet as a whole. In the latter case, fuck those people.
He’s the bigliest weirdo in history. Record-breaking. They’re all saying it.
An adult diaper enbiggens the smallest man.
The best people…
The Republicans aren’t sending their best.
Sadly, they might be.
They’re being told this is the best they have and they believe it.
Good people on both sides.
The joke on The Daily Show the other day was that she’s too young to be president and too old to be a woman…
That joke was a fuckin BANGER xD
She turned black the day Trump found out.
Just like the Dems turned into pedophile, racist, fascist groomers only after Trump left.
And Epstein turned rapist-pedo-trafficker the day Trump left him.
He’s going to start some birther shit at some stage as well. Claim she was born in Jamaica or some shit.
He’s already claiming she’s Canadian because she lived there when she was 12 and that’s where her mother worked at that time. So we’re aren’t long now from demanding long form birth certs.
“I paid some detectives to go up to Canada and you wouldn’t believe what they found! Why yes, they’re the exact same guys that have been in Hawaii for a decade looking into Obama, why do you ask?”
Meanwhile, the guys are actually just Giuliani tripping over folding chairs.
Giuliani can’t afford to go to Canada. Sadly, he probably wouldn’t be able to find it even if you flung him over Niagara Falls with a trebuchet.
I heard they can launch a 90 kilogram scumbag who’s as dumb as a rock up to 300 metres away.
You could fling Rudy from just outside the state park and splatter him along Clifton Hill then.
Would Canada let Giuliani in? Canada has standards, and 9 felonies, even when not convicted yet, is a red flag.
You can’t get into Canada if you have a DUI. Trump would need special permission to enter Canada.
Arizona called those guys back after Maricopa county got rid of Arpaio.
He’ll probably say she was born in both Jamaica and India. She’s Schrodinger’s presidential candidate (and analogy that is even more relevant after Vance’s stupid 'cat lady ’ comment).
According to 2016, she’s Indian-American
Woah, by that logic with those articles, she only became a woman in 2020 as well.
Almost like people contain multitudes.
Almost like she has one black pare t and one Indian parent or something…
Finally someone who gets it.
Last time I checked, Americans can be black. Indian-American doesn’t inherently mean Indian/White.
Why did they all of a sudden drop the indian part? If she were white-Indian, they would NEVER say, a white woman for Prez.
Why does it matter so much that she’s highlighting her black heritage?
Why are they hiding her Indian heritage?
It wasn’t, nor is it now, being hidden. Some reporters are more interested in her black heritage and others in her Indian heritage, and the overall context of the piece also factors into that. But by and large, “left” leaning outlets haven’t paid a whole ton of attention to her race as it doesn’t fucking matter. However, Republicans sure as shit have been very vocal about hee “blackness” and are now all “omg, but she’s Indian heritage, too, and we haven’t even dug into that. HoW COuLD thE LeFT Do ThIS tO Us?!?!”
Honestly, conservatives have become so transparently ratfuck racist with their attacks on Harris, it’s beyond wild. So tired of hearing pudgy white old dudes screech about “DEI” and not realize how INSANELY racist that is.
Look at the title of this post. It’s extremely racist by your own standards
She wasn’t the first black senator.
her fucking name is Kamala dude
So, not Black?
Her Indian heritage wasn’t hidden. Until Republicans, she was just American with a heritage, like the rest of us. It was just that no one cared. Raphael Cruz changed his name to fit in. There is a pattern.
Again, look at this title of this post. And the interviewer kept referring to her as a black woman.
Last time I checked, Americans can be black. Indian-American doesn’t inherently mean Indian/White.
Relevant joke from The Daily Show:
I was looking for just the clip of this to share, but could only find the full 15+ min vid. It’s been cracking me since Monday, because I’m seeing this actually reaction in real-time.
I got it from The Daily Show’s Instagram account. They put together screenshots for a lot of their jokes. So if you’re ever looking for something specific, it’s worth checking there.
You’re doing the good works!
you do know what “first” means, right? she wasn’t the first black senator so they didn’t mention that in 2016. and in 2020 first black woman as a VP candidate is more important than first Indian woman just because of demographics, so they highlighted that. but when she was VP both firsts were mentioned in news.
Yeah, just keep questioning people’s racial heritage. That’s a totally normal thing to do that will help the Trump Cult win more supporters. Great job!
He’s just a confused old man.
You’re thinking about Mr Biden again, sir. Don’t you worry about it. Let’s check your diaper and get you back to the TV Room, OK? Don’t forget your special red hat.
He’s just a confused old man.
He’s a racist old man who only half-remembers the dog whistles that Reagan used to play. The physical embodiment of First as Tragedy, Then as Farce.
well if you consider black to mean african, or african american, shes not. Shes asian.
So Jamaicans aren’t black? Isn’t Jamaica one of the first “african-american” colonies?
TIL no black people live anywhere outside of America and Africa.
no, black people decend from africans. harris did not.
Oh honey… She’s biracial. Her father is Jamacian.
jamaca is in america
you mean it’s on the north American continent right? right?
Shut up.
This guy isn’t black…mkay
Everyone descends from Africans. That’s where the human species originated.
no, thats the middle east
That’s not true.
LMAO
- Her father is Jamaican.
- Ultimately we all descend from African-born people. That doesn’t mean all humans are Black.
- Charlize Theron is African. She’s not Black.
- Black, as a label, is as much a shared cultural and countercultural identity as it is a familial heritage and racial identity.
- Your position is misinformed at best, reads worse, and is a weird hill to die on either way.
Literally everyone is originally of African descent, or did you seriously not know or understand this? Even white dude me.
Originally we all came from iraq, not africa
Proof?
Iraq is known as the cradle of civilization. Homo Sapiens came from Africa.
She’s not black because she’s checks notes Jamaican?
bro you’re straight up a moron
Trump also said: “A black job is anybody that has a job,” he said. “That’s what it is.” Again, the crowd gasped.
At first I was surprised he was invited but this was some 4D chess. He saw the trap and he dove head first.
I… i don’t even understand what that means? Is this some Americanism or is he just being incoherent again?
He’s being racist. Everyone was wondering after the first debate what “black jobs” were. Unfortunately, Biden died on stage, so that overshadowed it.
It’s just a Trumpism because he only has a cursory level of knowledge regarding the English language.
Like if you used chatgpt to make every dictionary definition vague and then taught that to someone.
It’s incoherent racist language.
I know you’re sad he’s not running anymore, but we’re not going back.
Biden later said his comments were a “mistake.”
So everyone agrees that statement from Biden was bad. Including Biden. Can we now do the same for Trump’s statement? Including Trump?
“Many fine people have told me that I was the blackest president in American history. It’s true, folks. And that’s why coloreds should vote for me instead of Laffin’ Kamindian. Did you know she’s half-Indian? What’s up with that? She’s also a FEMALE, in case you haven’t noticed. It’s a disgrace.”
If the Republicans were at all competent, they could actually have made this attack work.
Just look at Kedrick Lamar’s roasting of Drake in “Not Like Us”. Drake is clearly black, but he was mostly raised by a non-black mother in Canada. A lot of the emphasis in Not Like Us is how Drake has to do things like travel to Atlanta or wear clothes from Compton to pretend to fit in with black culture. So Lamar says:
“No, you not a colleague, you a fuckin’ colonizer”
A very clever Republican strategist use that Harris was mostly raised by her Indian mother, how she spent her teens in Montreal, Canada, how she married a white man, how she prosecuted people for marijuana possession, and so-on to try to sow doubts about whether she really fit in.
But, they’d have to have done that using black surrogates who were seemingly not tied to the Trump campaign. Instead, they’re so incompetent that they have Trump just blurt out to a Black audience that she’s not really black… which instead puts everyone on her side.
It’s crazy that people keep saying she prosecuted thousands upon thousands of black individuals with Marijuana charges. I swear people don’t know how to Google and find out that she oversaw 1900 cases, (which was a total for her AND those under her) but only 45 went to prison for it… and those were extreme cases. I’ve used the LetMeGoogleThatForYou site more than I’d like to admit.
The fact that you’re having to fight that fight shows that it could effectively be used by competent spin-doctors to sow doubt. The GOP in the George W. Bush era could have done it, they were ruthless and competent. They even got veterans to go against an actual veteran like John Kerry over a draft-dodger like Bush. The McCain camp could have done it – but even then they were starting to go nuts, picking Palin as his running mate.
But, luckily, the modern GOP is increasingly incompetent. The only thing they have going for them is that Trump has a cult of personality that has somehow taken in nearly half the US electorate.
I thought Bush was a drug abusing deserter, not a draft dodger.
Depends how you define “draft dodger”.
From what I remember, he avoided the draft by registering for the Air National Guard, then didn’t bother fulfilling the duties required for that position.
Republicans: “vote for us or Harris will take away all the weed”
Also Republicans: currently doing everything in their power to fight marijuana reform
Facts are cool for sure but if you’re ever at the point where you realize you’re speaking to someone who doesn’t acknowledge facts I suggest making things up, then when they try and dismiss those claims just copy and paste the parts of their comments that dismissed your facts.
This way you force them to be the ones who have to Google things, and when they run to Google they run the risk of actually learning something, and as we all know learning is conservatism’s mortal enemy.
Which Republican black person, who is well known, respected, and is not affiliated with Trump or MAGA, is going to do this attack on Kamala Harris, for Trump and Republicans?
They had their chance, and bungled it on a spectacular scale. Trump is taking hit after hit. Strategists know Trump’s small bags of tricks. They are blame others for what you do, lie, gaslight and steal. They are ready before Trump even thinks of it.
Which Republican black person, who is well known, respected, and is not affiliated with Trump or MAGA, is going to do this attack on Kamala Harris, for Trump and Republicans?
Yeah, that’s the thing, they’re so toxic that such a person probably doesn’t exist. But, they could probably have used some grifters who are not well known, not respected, but do have a few social media followers. They could probably have even used some of those famous Republicans who have “I’m a black woman” social media accounts that they occasionally forget to switch to before ranting. They just needed to do what the Russians do so well, and start whispers and get the lies / questions to spread.
Luckily, Trump flopped so hard that even if they started that kind of a whisper campaign now, people would know what they’re seeing and probably not fall for it.
He just can’t wrap his head around the idea of someone being biracial, or chooses not to, whatever.
Nah, he’s a fucking moron, but I don’t think that’s it. He’s trying to use a standard pratice of his of identifying something that others may like about an opponent and attack it as not being true. When that thing is race, it becomes extra fucking ridiculous.
I think theyre angry because many of the Weird Cheeto’s bigoted voters will want clarity on what kind of racial slur they’ll use as they are a discriminating bunch.
No, they really aren’t as far as slurs go. If a person of mixed ethnicity kinda looks black, they get the same ones as people whose parents are both black.
I was trying to make a joke but didn’t succeed.😞
I’ve heard them call people of Indian descent the same slurs that they use for Blacks and Arabs. These are not people who get ambiguity or experience empathy.
Oops, sarcasm missed.
Its the exact same shit they did to Obama. The trick is that McCain and Romney never went on record saying this bullshit. They had a gaggle of C-List news celebrities say it over and over again, while they would play the “I can’t believe someone would say OBAMA ISN’T BLACK that’s crazy who would think that?” game.
But Trump isn’t a politician in the traditional sense. He is the C-List news celebrity who talks shit all day. The GOP doesn’t want the one-eyed Navy Seal who makes serious sounding noises all day running for President. Or the elite business genius who doesn’t care about all our beautiful aborted white babies because he’s too busy counting his (((money))). They literally want to put William F. Buckley in office. But he’s dead, so they’ll settle for the Cheeto Mussolini.
(((money)))
Man it’s been a long time since I saw this in the wild. Isn’t the “(((___)))” supposed to signify “Jew” in a bad way?
I looked at the echo symbol “(((___)))” in the Anti Defamation League hate symbol website. Whatever is inside the triple parenthesis has Jewish added. In this case, the echo means Jewish money.
Conservative bloggers thought they’d come up with a super clever code to do antisemitism without getting flagged for it, but it just turned into a big joke.
I’m glad someone else remembers this bs. The right wingers attacked Obama in the same way because he was raised by a white single mother in Hawaii and later by an Indonesian step father overseas. Because these idiots don’t have a word for that, they attacked him as a pretender. But let’s be clear, they don’t do ambiguity because complexity loses them voters.
Strangely the right wingers got something almost correct for a change. It’s true that the concept of “race” is both racist and artificial. It’s how you were raised that largely determines your culture. Obama wouldn’t fit in in Africa. True. But he was raised as an American. THAT MEANS HE’S AMERICAN.
The same is true for Harris. Its sad that she’s going to get attacked for being raised by an Indian-American-Jamacian mother in oaktown (which was predominantly black back then) because of stupidity and the great orange puff’s lack of self control
Strangely the right wingers got something almost correct for a change. It’s true that the concept of “race” is both racist and artificial. It’s how you were raised that largely determines your culture. Obama wouldn’t fit in in Africa. True. But he was raised as an American. THAT MEANS HE’S AMERICAN.
This is my handy guide to determine if someone is American (can be applied to any country):
- Born in America = American
- Born in a different country and moved to America at young age and spent a considerable amount of time growing up in America = American
- Immigrated at an older age to America and have their citizenship = American
- Immigrated at an older age to America and do not have their citizenship = Trying to become American
4a. Immigrated at an older age and don’t want to get their citizenship, and are planning to eventually move home = Not American
His entire brain is “reality can be whatever I want”
I don’t think that he can’t wrap his head around being biracial, I think he’s trying to play on the community’s own racism.
Let’s not kid ourselves here, all racial community’s have their members who shun and reject biracial kids as being part of their community with some cultures having a larger segment of that type of thinking than others.
I think he would be confused regardless. The fact that she’s biracial compounds it. People love to categorize others into boxes they understand. It often results in racism, but it usually results in a kind of obstinate ignorance. There are many people who fundamentally cannot seem to understand that Indians are Asian, even if they’re pretty brown. They also don’t understand that a Jamaican who’s a descendant of slaves is African-American. That someone can be both of these impossible (in their mind) things is just outlandish.
I know a guy who’s black and British, and I have heard him explain how he isn’t African-American so many times. Whatever white person receives the explanation never really believes it and always treats it like it’s a trick. I know someone else who has a seeing eye dog that’s a mutt, and not some movie-groomed golden retriever. Confusion abounds.
African-American? You mean, like Elon Musk?
It’s because Biden left the race, so now there’s no black candidates left.
She was a proud Indian until it became popular to be black.
As usual the party of dishonesty is gaslighting the world and the drones lap it up.
Because she’s both. Her mom is Indian, and her dad is Afro-Jamaican. That makes her ethnicity both Indian and Afro-Jamacian. There are people out there with mixed ethnicities.
Then why does your media only ever promote the black side?
Depends which news outlets you look at.
The one doing the interview with Trump
Was she a proud Indian when she chose to go to Howard University, a historically black college? When she joined Alpha Kappa Alpha, a historically black sorority, that must have been odd if she considered herself Indian instead of black.
She has considered herself both black and Indian for a very long time.
No she hasn’t, it was one or the other which was most convenient.
Like Key and Peele?
“What are you, a father or a son?! You act like whichever is convenient for you at the time, you big phony!!”
That’s what you sound like right now. It’s pretty weird that you can’t understand mixed-race people; it’s pretty simple.
I have a truck that can drive on roads and rail tracks. I use the method most convenient at the time.
So you’re saying you can pick your race?
Joines 3 hours ago to start spewing nonsense about not understanding basic lineage. Are you a nut job or just someone who needs to find a life?
I’m guessing you don’t know any mixed race people.
Cannot help himself. This won’t be the last time
