• KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 months ago

    well i mean. Mixed people are a weird group.

    They can often “toe the line” in a social sense, being able to fit in with a white group, or a black group more easily. Whether or not this is what’s happening here is a different story. But socially, i think there’s something to be said about it.

    Fundamentally, you fit in less with any given group, so you’re more likely to be around more broader influence and likewise have less specific influence from any one group. Social cliques are likely to form around you, not with you for a similar reason. In a way, you’re sort of alienated from the group, though arguably not in a bad way, since you can sort of fit into any group available. Which makes you more flexible socially, which is obviously advantageous for something like, politics for example.

    The tricky part here, is whether or not this is actually happening, and if it is happening, subconscious racism, or just broader social theory (which argues that similar people coalesce into a group, and by virute of being a different ethnicity, you also have a different culture (thats partially how ethnicity works) so it would be expected that some form of social clique would form.

    alright, i’m too fucking tired to keep posting this kind of shit on the internet, don’t kill me in my sleep, please.

    oh and for the people who struggle with reading comprehension sometimes, like myself, this isn’t racism, obviously. This is just some sociological pondering.

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      Mixed people are a weird group.

      They can often “toe the line” in a social sense, being able to fit in with a white group, or a black group more easily

      Yes, historically it is well known that racist are more tolerant of mixed race people /s

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        Yes, historically it is well known that racist are more tolerant of mixed race people /s

        well i mean yeah, historically, but i dont recall about speaking historically.

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          So despite all evidence to the contrary, surely this is the exact moment in time when it has become easier for mixed race people?

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            are you arguing that racism hasn’t changed at all since historical accounts of racism?

            I mean, i don’t think i fundamentally disagree, but considering i was never talking about racism in the first place, im not sure how much this matters.

            Speaking of ethnically relevant group social behaviors, china is a prime example of this. They have a certain type of behavior around foreigners, since they aren’t very common and chinese society is largely homogeneous, even including the existing minority racism that’s going on in china, those are more closely related to the broader populous than an american, for example.

            you see similar things around other societies as well, this is extremely prominent among remote tribes and groups of people living in places the general populous doesn’t live. Interaction between the two is often, very weird.

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              6 months ago

              considering i was never talking about racism in the first place

              I guess that’s hard to respond to considering your post was removed by moderators. I’m sure that has nothing to do with racist speech in the post and was completely unrelated and unjustified.

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      6 months ago

      i’m too fucking tired to keep posting this kind of shit on the internet

      At least you recognize that what you’re saying is shit. You can always stop.

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        6 months ago

        You can always stop.

        stop what? Thinking about inter ethnic dynamics? Europeans aren’t exactly known for always liking other europeans. There’s also the whole “eastern europe” problem, which is argubaly a hold over of soviet era discrimination of the block countries.

        I’m sure the irish like the british, surely they would never have anything bad to say about them.

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          You can always stop … posting this shit. You know, the rest of your comment I quoted.

          You’re going off about unrelated things, and maybe you don’t need to actually post that. Sometimes it can just stay a thought.

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            yeah, but that’s boring though, isn’t the whole point of the internet posting stupid shit for shitposting reasons or just incoherent train of thought rambling?

            Seems more productive than spreading misinformation and ideological biases that are actually negatively influential on society.

            Sometimes it’s important to sit down and think about shit, even if it’s stupid.

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                no, but that’s also because i don’t tell anybody to believe anything i say.

                I’m literally here to kill time, why would you put any conviction behind half the shit i say without being a little bit independent and capable of figuring things out on your own.

                Part of the reason i do this is to make an example of the fact that people can just post shit on the internet, i could literally just make some shit up, and you would believe me.

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                  I don’t think people believe you, based on the down votes you’ve received.

                  I also don’t think people need examples of “shit”. It makes the comment section worse, which seems weird to do to a place you want to participate in. You have a choice to be better.

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                    it’s fine if other people believe me, i assume you’ve spent some time on reddit, as i have, you should know by now that downvotes mean almost nothing other than “uh oh stinky” and “mmmm i like this post, it make me feel good”

                    I’ve seen people get downvote bombed for forgetting a /s on an obviously sarcastic shitpost. Threads will often have progressively and progressively less downvote bombing even if they start bad, and pretty quickly start to engage in good faith argument. The only thing that seems to lower the downvotes is the “display thread” button that blocks the rest of the messages.

                    I also don’t think people need examples of “shit”. It makes the comment section worse, which seems weird to do to a place you want to participate in.

                    you aren’t wrong, but it’s not like anybody needs the internet either, i just think it’s often the best way to get people thinking about the shit they read and the shit they say. Maybe i’m wrong, or maybe you disagree, but that’s the beauty of the internet.

                    i wouldn’t say what i did makes the comment section worse beyond that of being mildly offtopic, it’s relatively schizo, that’s about it.

                    You have a choice to be better.

                    i’m not sure what you’re trying to imply here, racism?