In a YouGov poll conducted between July 25-29, 59 percent of Republicans surveyed said they would prefer a president under the age of 75. Trump celebrated his 78th birthday in June. Forty percent said they had no preference, and just two percent said they would prefer a president over the age of 75.
sorry you gotta carry it to term, republicans
Best comment on Lemmy in months
And JD Vance!
Short of a major heart attack, Trump isn’t giving up one iota of power. Really helps to draw a contrast between the parties, where one guy is willing to step down and the other is prepared to crash the plane with us all in it.
“Yes, because our guy is TOUGH who sees things THROUGH!”
- MAGA asshats, probably
Was Biden not stubbornly refusing to step down for so long, until his party forced his hand? I think Democrats wanted someone younger than him in 2020 too. I think we’re giving Biden too much credit here.
You can bet that at least the last week of that was a matter of keeping up appearances. The transition went smoother than it had any right to, and that doesn’t happen without a lot of behind the scenes planning.
Must’ve been a supervetted group who knew anything if reports are true some close aides were told minutes before the official announcement.
We must remember that Biden is a politician who arguably plagiarised lines of a speech from Kinnock, sinking his '87 campaign.
He’s not some paragon of virtue and perfection.
His greatest achievement is also working with the Republicans. And look at how much respect that got him from that party.
dude i think every politican ever has plagiarized a speech. Even fucking trump, although i think it was ivanka? Idk, she stole michelle obamas speech iirc.
Also 87 was literally 35+ years ago.
Okay, so we can’t judge Biden on reasonable standards, or what he did when he was being a politician in the past. Got it.
yeah and 35+ years ago hating gay people was normal, i dont think gay marraige was legalized, the queer community quite literally did not exist in the capacity it does now.
Women certainly didn’t have the same rights they do now, the 80s was only 20 years post civil rights act, should i keep going?
Would you like me to criticize you for things you did when you were 10? Because that’s essentially what you’re arguing here.
It’s fair to criticize biden for the 93 crime bill, in retrospect, and in vacuum. It’s unfair to say that biden is the worst president in the world because he made a bad crime bill once over 20 years ago.
90’s america was going through one of if not the worst violent crime spurs in a long time during the 90s. You simply can’t correlate the two of them.
Would you like me to criticize you for things you did when you were 10? Because that’s essentially what you’re arguing here.
Would you like to say that a politician in his 40s has the same lack of responsibility as a child?
False. Biden wasn’t willing to step down. He was forced to. Just because he did it doesn’t make him a hero. He deserves to be remembered for refusing to listen to feedback until it was clear he’d be tanked by people like Pelosi, another Dem who won’t give up power unless it’s on her own terms. But we can move on from that mess, thankfully.
Or he made sure to stand strong strategically (as anyone running would do) and stepped down at a time to maximize effectiveness.
Giving an incredible amount of credit where there’s no evidence. Our politicians / politics aren’t terribly complicated. There are people who want power and they act accordingly. And there are people who want to do some good. They might be the rare case where they don’t get corrupted (Bernie). And then the rest gradually learn to live within the system and perpetuate it (possibly AOC; can’t tell for sure, but it seems more like it as time passes).
No, he was planning to run again. His debate performance was the nail in the coffin.
i mean, he rightly, i think did what was expected. The incumbency advantage over someone like trump, especially with having pushed SO much productive legislation is a really safe bet, was it safe enough to win? Maybe?
I don’t think people were expecting everyone to be super excited over kamala, until she showed up and started kicking ass.
up until that one debate, he was doing pretty ok. Not great, but not terrible enough to warrant completely removing him, which was why the DNC waited to nominate.
He was pressured to step down and then was ultimately willing to listen and do do. There was no method to force him to step down – he had more than enough delegates locked in to win the nomin if he wanted to keep going.
He was forced to, how? Nobody has the power to force him do anything.
He read the writing on the wall and stepped aside. Something Trump would never do.
I agree Trump would never step aside. I’m just saying Biden was put in a position where the support he needed wasn’t there and they made it clear to him. He still could have run, but he was made to understand that he’d lose because he wouldn’t have the backers he needed. Look at the cash KH is raking in. The right people let him know they wanted her / anyone else instead.
He knows if he isn’t elected, he’s going to prison.
…or Russia.
True. It wouldn’t shock me if he did the Idi Amin thing.
Go directly to gulag, do not pass Mar-A-Lago.
This is depends if there are still top secret documents there.
I highly doubt the Feds would allow that.
A good plan B if he was capable of planning on his own.
A Russian prison would be a fitting setting for him. Hope he outlives his usefulness.
They wouldn’t throw him in prison even if he could get there. They would put him on one of their propaganda “news” channels and let him go to town. They can subtitle whatever they want for the locals so he can say whatever.
But he’ll never get there. He has a permanent secret service escort that probably isn’t going to be cool with defecting to russia.
I think it’s because he knows that if he is elected he’ll be President until old age and unhealthy living kill him, whether that’s two years from now or twenty.
“You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what? It’ll be fixed, it’ll be fine. You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians,” he said.
And who knows what the remaining government of Trumpistan will choose to do for his replacement after that.
I’m not so sure I agree that he will be held accountable for his actions if he doesn’t win. I think he still narrowly avoids prison even if he doesn’t win, or maybe only spends like 3 days maximum in prison, sadly.
I really don’t think his Supreme Court is going to allow him to have a custodial sentence. They showed they were fully on the Trump train by finding immunity in the constitution when it plainly reads otherwise.
You may be absolutely correct, but we know for a fact that he won’t be held accountable if he does win.
He is not a healthy man, Trump will die before he’s held accountable for anything. He’s lived a long life of being a terrible person and the only consequence he’ll face for it is the stress of court cases through his final years and the knowledge that only 40ish% of voters would vote for him again.
There’s also the possibility of house arrest. I’ll take that.
For most people, it would be a horrible punishment to be forced to spend your older years at one of his resorts*… surrounded exclusively by people who are happy to support him financially.
*or maybe “resort”, anybody know if you can stay at any impeached ex-presidential resorts besides mar-AHHHH!!!-lago?
i think the reason it’s considered a resort is because hes only allowed to stay there for like 30 days at a time, no longer. Since it’s not legally considered to be a “private residence” and that has something to do with it’s tax status i think? Which i think is also due to it’s zoning status.
I believe this is pretty common amongst rich people who own multiple properties.
surrounded exclusively by people who are happy to support him financially.
I think you greatly overestimate who would plan on sticking around if Trump ended up disgraced after the election and under house arrest. He will have completely outlived his usefulness.
I hope so. Maybe it would just be these four
It doesn’t seem like a real consequence. Also, what if he breaks it? Will there be a consequence for that? I don’t see it happening.
He’s not going to prison
Do they send 78 year old people to prison?
Funny, Pete went on Fox and said just that!
I definitely would not be able to remain as calm as Mr Buttigieg in this exchange.
lol she was trying so hard to interrupt him. Cable news is cancerous bs
Made it so much more satisfying
Willing to step down is giving him too much credit. He was pushed out because Dems know he’ll lose. The parties are the same. It’s just business. They don’t love or care about you.
Biden still stepped down, Trump never will. These are not the same picture.
They don’t want him to. Not the same indeed.
59% of Republicans want someone younger than Trump as president.
Republicans also don’t want Trump to step down.
At least they’re consistent in not knowing what they want.
That’s one from one survey. And even so, that doesn’t mean that’s gonna sway them away from not voting for the guy. They’d still vote. People wouldn’t vote for Biden so Dems had to change. That’s a big difference.
They couldn’t force him. They convinced him it was the right thing to do.
Yeah like how convince people to resign after doing something terrible. It wasn’t Biden’s idea. You didn’t hear all the stuff he was saying after the debate? Come on
It’s almost like he had the self awareness to change his mind when presented with compelling, new information.
It’s what mature adults do
If you think the only way any adult can change their mind is if they’re forced to, it speaks more of you than them.
The new and compelling information was that they wanted his ass out.
Damn. You Biden’s #1 fan. And think so highly of politicians. It’s business. People don’t want to lose money and power. Biden isn’t immune to this.
Yes it was. Gold star for you.
I must be his #1 fan because reasons.
Have an ice cream cone or something man. It’ll help that attitude.
I knew it. You’re in love with him. You wanna share a cone with him and accidentally (but actually purposefully) go for the last lick together, pause and look into each other’s eyes bashfully, then proceed to make out. So obvious that’s what you wanna do.
one guy is willing to step down
81 year old man dogpilled by his party during a possibly fatal respiratory illness.
Don’t give Biden too much credit here.
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If you have any questions or comments about me, you can make a post to LW Support lemmy community.Isn’t this consistent with when it was Trump/Biden? I seem to remember both sides saying they wanted a younger candidate.
Or it could be they think Trump is younger than he actually is…
The latter wouldn’t shock me, but I don’t remember anything but the majority of Republicans saying they wanted anyone but Trump. I admit I don’t have the world’s best memory, so feel free anyone to show me wrong here.
This is it
I bet half the respondents didn’t realize Trump is over 75yrs
I imagine it’s like those people Jordan Klepper interviews at Trump rallies that go like this:
Jordan: Do you think a candidate who’s almost 80 is too old?
Person: Yeah.
J: …and Trump is 78.
Person: Yeah.
J: So he’s too old and someone younger would be better.
Person: For sure.
J: So who do you want for president?
Person: I’m voting Trump.
Jordan: Do you think that a sentient pile of goo trained in a laboratory to hate all human life and subject it to fiery nuclear death is a good candidate?
Person: No.
J: Trump is actually a robot inhabited by that goo. Here is clear, simple, factual and verifiable evidence. Here are multiple videos and sources confirming that Trump wants to kill us all.
Person: Yeah.
J: So, Trump is a bad candidate who will murder your children.
Person: Yep.
J: Who are you voting for?
Person: Trump, he’ll go after the alphabet mafia first. And, to be honest, he’s just saying he’ll kill everyone to be edgy and noticeable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews
A reason why some German Jews supported Hitler was that they thought that his anti-Semitism was only for “stirring up the masses”.
I’m voting for Shrieking White-Hot Sphere of Pure Rage!
According to his nft’s he looks to be in the early 40s, with a body like a greek god.
They definitely have not looked up how old he is, so I’m going with the latter and they thought this was a dig at Biden.
“So, Nicki Haley?”
[suddenly all the Trumpets cast their vote for an over-75 primary presidential candidate]
It’s just empty hand-wringing.
Vance of course.
I’ma never Trump guy… lol
That song is stuck in my head.
It’s a good sign. They think Harris can win.
As a band kid, I respectfully request that you do not use my musical instrument of choice to refur to racist conservatives who want to end democracy.
Thank you for your understanding
Tulsi Gabbard would have my vote
Ya good luck extracting Trump from your party. I’ll be like trying to extract botfly larvae from under your scalp.
Except more disgusting
possible with right tools and the sooner the less damage it causes
It’s not. Trump will not let go. He’s a complete narcissist who is always the best at everything, everyone says so. Even with significant donor backlash–instrumental in forcing out Biden–he won’t give in.
Didn’t he go all nepotism on the RNC and put in place family or friends and force out all of “the old guard”?
Yup. Lol
I’m afraid to look this up
Yeah, dont. I just did and its rough. I mean I guess if you watch pimple popping videos you’ll be fine, but bleeeeggghhhhhh
Your fears are well founded.
I think he’s more like a tumor, with his rabid allies being metastasized all over the party.
More like a worm from your brain.
dudes not going to take a hint
So, now they want to change the ballot after they had their convention and picked their nominee? Isn’t this what republicans were screaming was illegal for the dems to do? Except that the dems hadn’t picked their nominee officially yet?
…they would prefer a president under the age of 75.
Thank you Captain Obvious!
Nope, should’ve thought about that before getting in bed with him. Now they have to carry him to term.
The way you phrased that reminded me of that old X Files episode where that little dude crawls inside the fat dude.
Well that’s an image one can’t un-imagine…
These republicans want to get rid of candidates up to and after the 11th month!
/s
How many of them changed their minds when they were told that DJT is, in fact, over the age of 75?
2%
A Ryker in the post feels like cheating.
I’m the Riker expert around here. Don’t argue with my Riker posting.
I can’t even spell the dude’s name right. Clearly no one should be listening to me.
I think they see how dropping Biden has significantly benefited the Democrats and hope the same would happen for then if they dropped Trump.
The problem for them with that is that Trump will never willingly step down. Unlike Biden he’s in it for himself and has everything to lose its he doesn’t win. This would also be guaranteed to result in crippling infighting in the party and with Trump trying to go independent.
The Republican party is f’ed. That’s what you get for selecting a selfish lunatic to lead it.
It’s only f’ed if they lose (and don’t steal the election). So get out to vote everyone.
We absolutely need to vote, but I’m worried that some of these R swing states are going to pull some serious shit and just deny certifying the results.
We’re going to hear a whole bunch about “immigrants voting illegaly” and “ballot stuffing” or the good ol’ “the numbers (that we won’t provide) don’t match up! Dead people are voting!”
they tried to pull alternate electorates in the 2020 election, and it didn’t work.
If they’re swing state, they probably won’t i think. Because there would likely be some kind of massive poltiical uprising in response to blatantly overthrowing electorates like that. It would likely be deeply unpopular.
it’s a concern, for sure, but unless they try to pull some real bullshit, i don’t think it’s a massive concern.
This also doesn’t even discount proposing fraudulent votes, which im not sure would matter from a legal perspective, but if you’re just, lying about votes that you’re submitting, i wouldn’t be surprised if that was not exactly, clean.
It would indeed be better for the GOP if Trump stepped down, but of course the GOP decided that they ARE Trump, so they’re stuck with him for the rest of his life.
Do they have an actual platform this time or is it still “whatever Trump says we’ll follow”?
Well, if they got rid of him, it would probably change to “the same, but with a different god emperor.”
The other problem is their convention is over. But I suppose they do have until August 7th to make the Ohio ballot with someone else. Good luck with that, guys.
if the Ohio republicans accidentally eat their own faces with their bullshit august 7 deadline, i might start believing in America again
Well of course most people would prefer a younger candidate. I’m sure even the candidates wish they were younger. (I wouldn’t mind being younger myself.) That’s not the same thing as preferring to replace the current candidate with a different, younger candidate.
Isn’t preferring a younger president suggesting you want a younger candidate?
Sorry, I rephrased my post a bit. What I meant is that there’s a difference between saying “it would be better if Trump were younger” and “Trump should be replaced by someone who is younger”.
