The title is the original title that NYT published. They updated it after backlash (rightfully so). Please don’t report this post again.
Can you not update the title? I can update my title on posts to different communities… Why preserve the old/pre-change title?
they can, but the title doesn’t violate any rules.
Trump: “I am chickening out of the debate with Harris, and trying to force it onto a right-wing propaganda network that won’t let me lose.”
New York Times: “Trump has accepted the invitation to debate Harris.”
No he didn’t, you fucking hacks. How the fuck does one accept their own invitation? He wasn’t invited to shit, he burned his invitation and is demanding Harris play a new game.
Fuck Trump for being a cowardly weasel, and fuck the New York Times for this bullshit narrative.
Did the headline change or something? I don’t think NYT said it’s an acceptance
It says “Trump agrees”. I clicked on it thinking it was a done deal but it’s very much not. It’s misleading.
Edit- they changed it on the site. But damage is already done to people who just see the original headline and don’t read into it.
I asked my question because the NYT headline that I personally saw didn’t say “Trump agrees,” and I wanted to verify whether that was the actual headline or an interpretation of it.
I cannot stand his voice; I always end up muting the TV and reading the closed captioning. Those poor people that have to do the live captioning though…
When Trump was in office foreign translators got a ton of shit for doing thier job. So many non English speaking people thought the translators were drunk. That made more sense at the time than The President of the United States of America actually saying the things he said. There was also the time he got laughed at by the entire United Nations.
I can’t either. On the other hand, I’ll take it because he’s going up against a very seasoned prosecuting attorney.
Imagine having to stand on that stage and smell that soiled old man. If he stank I would bring that up before answering every question
"I’m sorry can I get a fan up here? I need to be down wind of his diaper. "
upwind*
Fuck.
UPWIND UPWIND!
The Fox News event is a week earlier than the originally scheduled ABC debate. Won’t Harris look bad if she doesn’t go?
Why is it on Harris to attend a debate she didn’t agree to, and not on Trump to attend the debate he did agree to?
He RSVP’d to the ABC debate, and now he’s chickening out and trying to hide behind his propagandist friends to avoid engaging in an actual debate.
It only looks bad for Harris if you consider Trump someone with integrity, Fox News an honest platform, or ignore how many debates Trump has backed out of in the past purely out of cowardice.
Okay Trump, you’re playing the cards you wish you had, rather than the ones in your hand. A clear sign of denial.
Delete this post for using the word Agrees in the title.
Yes. This is blatant misinformation. Nobody “agreed” to anything. The actual nyt article doesn’t even use this word. This post needs to be deleted.
Article headline got edited after backlash
According to Mr. Trump’s post on his social media site, the debate is to take place at a to-be-determined location in Pennsylvania, the must-win battleground state that could help decide the election. Fox News anchors Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum would moderate.
It was unclear early Saturday if Ms. Harris had agreed to the debate and its terms. Representatives for her campaign did not respond to requests for comment. A spokeswoman for Fox News also did not respond to questions.
I think it’s worth waiting to see if Harris has actually agreed to this, in the extremely unlikely chance that Trump lied about a thing.
Also, pretty funny that even if that’s the case, Trump still needs a month to prepare and it has to be in his safe space network.
he is only ‘agreeing’ with the voice inside his head bouncing between the three brain cells. trying to play games and force harris into it.
i highly doubt harris would agree to those terms. nfw.
I’m sorry but you’re wrong. Two brain cells fighting for third place.
Well, Harris does have a pre-existing commitment coming up soon. Surprised Trump didn’t challenge her to debate during that.
Would be funny to have it at the same place he got shot at last time.
Have it at the 4 Seasons (Total Landscaping parking lot).
I truly can’t believe this timeline. That moment can’t have been real. Yet it was.
That’s even better, nice one.
The Harris campaign on Saturday declined to commit to the Fox News debate and said it was still planning on a Sept. 10 debate hosted by ABC.
“Donald Trump is running scared and trying to back out of the debate he already agreed to and running straight to Fox News to bail him out. He needs to stop playing games and show up to the debate he already committed to on Sept. 10,”
I think that’s pretty clear.
Pleassssseeeee stick to this Harris!! Man we can only hope.
I’m glad she called it exactly for what it was. Too bad Magoos will only see this as she wants her supposed safe space. :(
Fucking hell I’m actually excited. If you had asked me literally a month ago I wouldn’t have given a shit and would have laughed if you had told me I’d be interested. Don’t get me wrong I was going to vote either way, but man I cannot wait for Harris to slam the shit out of this dirt bag and make a national embarrassment of him. The shit that worked with Biden sure as hell isn’t going to fly with Harris.
Don’t underestimate the ratfuckery Fox Entertainment Channel can get up to.
He’ll do a debate if it’s in his safe space. Snowflake.
Hopefully it’s outside.
Underhanded. I like it.
I think this is bad news tbh. Harris can be as capable as she wants, but if the broadcaster doesnt stop Trump from a endless ramble or cut off his mic if he escalates to intolerable levels of behaviour, then this could end badly.
Don’t give Fox News respect. Start talking shit about it right now. Call this what it is, a scared old weird man who will only debate Harris on a “news” network currently paying billions for lying to everyone about the last election. Harris will treat Trump and the “journalists” playing moderators like children which is how we should’ve been treating them for years. Talking to them like adults validates their lies and bullshit.
Harris should call them out. “I said a debate on a news source, not some weird entertainment channel. Might as well have the weather channel moderate the debate!”
While entertaining for us, I don’t think that’d be a wise reaction. If she wants to win, she probably also needs to sway some people that are lifetime FOX junkies. Such a reaction could have a ‘basket of deplorables’ effect (being the stone cold truth, but hardly effective)
Being nice to idiots has proven to be hardly effective. Kamala needs to read word for word the arguments the Fox News lawyers made when they were in court for the dominion case. Fox News isn’t news it’s entertainment and they don’t employ journalists they employ entertainers. This is what Fox News said.
No, what she needs to do is win this election. That’s her job, everything else (like taking entertainment corpos to task for their shady tactics) comes secondary right now.
I fail to see how one impedes the other, in fact I would argue it would help her win. If she’s running on doing just that why wouldn’t she take a shot. Why hide? You think any Fox News fanboys would be swayed by anything Kamala says? Her time would be better spent attracting unregistered voters and she could do that by saying the quiet part out loud.
Pretty sure Fox is run by a scared old weird man.
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fox deserves no respect.
You know how fascists are always projecting; the way he treats normal news agencies tells us all we need to know - it’s exactly how we SHOULD be treating his pet agencies.
In what sense has he agreed something if no one else involved knows about it? I think the right verb here is ‘suggests’.
He made a post saying that’s the “deal”. In a way it’s a brave way to try and get a venue change. Harris would have to basically insult Fox News and their entire viewership to avoid looking like she’s walking away.
Which (insulting fox and their viewers) she should do regardless, tbh
That’s a quick way to lose an election. Almost like calling people deplorable. That worked great didn’t it?
That was one of the very few good things she did. Hilary is just a deeply unlikable person.
Insulting voters is never a good move in an election.
If she can go on Fox News and score a couple points against him it’ll go very well for her though; going into the proverbial lions den and coming out the other side
No (current) Harris voters are watching Fox News right now, she only stands to gain votes if she handles herself.
Gov Newsom destroyed when he was on Fox. I don’t think that Fox will repeat their mistake.
Yeah putting this on Fox seems like a super risky move on the Trump campaign’s part, for not that much gain.
It won’t. There is nothing to gain in debating baby Donnie on Fox News.
Again, it’s not a deal if you don’t have agreement. That’s not a deal, it’s an offer.
I know that and you know that. But do the people who just watch Sinclair News know that?
Brave isn’t the right word. Brazen is.
Yeah I can’t always with the words.
That’s what Trump is doing to ABC right now
And she’s calling him out in a way I couldn’t see happening before. I’m glad to see it.
This was the obvious move - attempt to change the venue to Fox, Newsmax or worse. I’m surprised Tucker isn’t a proposed moderator.
Harris should counter with a live fact check requirement regardless of venue, which Trump and Fox could never accept.
Even with a live fact check requirement, would you trust Fox News to fact check? They’d probably use “alternative facts”.
Fox’s lie. Who’d ever believe their news?
I mean foxes do say a lot of things… https://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE?si=wmu99UDKpDg5OQk9
The problem is that I let it play even after I saw what it was…
It’s definitely a risk for Harris but it’s the only place anyone watching only Fox will see her debate Trump. Not that it’ll change their minds of course, they’re so heavily brainwashed it’s insane.
People who watch Fox make up a pretty significant portion of every debate’s viewership. They don’t care what channel it’s on, they’re going to watch.
Why it should never happen. Trump could go there, shit his pants, and call Harris all the words, and all republicans will lap it up like the mewling little weird cowards they are.
There was no scenario that wasn’t going to happen anyway
Buttigieg has been appearing on Fox News recently and he’s been doing a good job dismissing their dishonest narratives and avoiding their traps.
https://youtu.be/SXGpXWbVYSg?si=xBtDe8jWbMdXvmUF
But this isn’t Buttigieg, and this isn’t a one-on-one interview, so we can only hope if she agrees to this for some reason that she’s as prepared as he is.
I agree to Trump withdrawing from the election.
