A man taking his trash to an apartment dumpster was shot and killed after he slipped while walking and the gun he was carrying went off accidentally, according to San Antonio police.

  • SoJB@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    Am I missing something or are there just no gun owners here. This is incredibly disingenuous, and even dangerous, “advice”.

    A loaded gun with a round in the chamber should fire when the trigger is pulled, every single time. They should not fire when the trigger is not pulled.

    Following any one of the three safety rules prevents 100% of “accidents”. There are no real gun accidents besides catastrophic mechanical failure (which does happen, but usually with shit ammo and shit guns or poorly maintained guns).

    Depending on traditional safeties encourages poor gun handling habits and adds precious time to fire when milliseconds count. “Safety-less” pistols will not fire unless the trigger is pulled, period.

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      6 months ago

      Safty-less pistol owner here. Glock-19 Gen3. Even though the gun is resistant to firing unless the trigger is pulled (ie dropping it) it won’t go off. That being said, I never carry with a round chambered because of this. It takes a half a second extra to chamber the round, I’d rather take that than carry a loaded round pointed at my spine or crotch all day.

      • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
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        6 months ago

        Yeah, this idea that you are going to just be on the street and need to quickdraw a weapon like ten paces at dawn style is the biggest fucking delusion on top of a mountain of delusions in the gun community.

      • FireTower@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        Modern designed production firearms have internal safeties that prevent the firing pin from moving forward if the trigger isn’t pulled.

        That video is on single action revolvers which have been out of vogue for over a century.

        Skip to 1:40

        https://youtu.be/V2RDitgCaD0?si=

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          6 months ago

          For all the gun owners in the thread, GarandThumb recently did a video (youtube gun guy) where he drop tested several handguns and a couple of them actually did go off. As many of you are saying, firearms shouldn’t go off without the trigger being pulled and that’s for sure the case a large majority of the time.

          Frustratingly the article doesn’t mention anything about the make, model or condition of the firearm here. It’s totally possible it went off just from being dropped.

          • Liz@midwest.social
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            6 months ago

            He almost certainly tested the very few modern handguns known to have that problem, for which they rightly got a lot of hate. You’d have to link the specific video, I don’t watch GT.

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      6 months ago

      Yeah, no shit. And having a safety makes it near impossible to pull the trigger. I don’t think anyone here doesn’t understand the concept of a safety mechanism.

      • Liz@midwest.social
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        6 months ago

        There’s loads of people who have no idea how guns work. It’s somewhat specialized knowledge.

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          6 months ago

          This too. You’d be bafflef how many people think the shell casing is part of the bullet that’s fired. Like little rockets lol.

      • Transporter Room 3@startrek.website
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        6 months ago

        There’s also a safety on some guns, which I personally hate, that allows you to pull the trigger, but the safety disconnects the mechanism from the pin, or blocks the pin from going forward.

        Personally I’d rather they just not allow a trigger pull at all. It’s especially freaky when you get one that still moves the hammer.