Just stumbled upon this project, seems rather new as my DNS blocked its domain by default for being too new hehe… Anyone had a chance to try it yet? Its got some hefty promises, like having equally strong privacy features as Librewolf. I’ll be giving it ago at least, almost sounds a bit too good to be true…
nixpkgs has been working on adding it for a month now but it uses “surfer” for compilation. It’ll be interesting to see how they end up building it in the Nix style. Looks like it’ll have to involve pnpm.
Optimised for peak performance? Are there benchmarks to back this up?
Edit - their docs have benchmarks. They do not appear to have comparative benchmarks
That whole chart seems pretty hand-wavey.
I believe it’s just a build with all modern cpu features enabled. At the cost of undefined behavior when ran on older computers
This looks like it good be a great replacement for Floorp. Thanks for sharing!
How does this one compare to the current OGs like Mullvad Browser and Librewolf?
Until something comes out saying otherwise, Mullvad browser seems to be the best privacy wise.
I believe Zen is better than default Firefox out of the box, but you can get the same effect in regular Firefox by toggling some options.
I liked Zen for the UI changes. It’s nice having the tabs on the side and a customizable sidebar
Mullvad browser seems to be the best privacy wise.
Only makes sense if you use their VPN. Otherwise, there’s no real advantages over LibreWolf.
Its got some hefty promises, like having equally strong privacy features as Librewolf.
It doesn’t, check yourself.
There privacy is better than regular Firefox due to disabling telemetry etc, but librewolf does way more to protect against fingerprinting. The browser itself is quite good, although it shows that it’s in early development. Also I disabled send a do not track signal as it is used for fingerprinting
Also I disabled send a do not track signal as it is used for fingerprinting
Doesn’t this only make sense if it is off by default on that browser? I assume if it is on by default, most people will just keep it on, thus making users of that browser that turn it off stand out more. No?
Firefox doesn’t enable it by default, so if you turn it of any chance of being perceived as just another Firefox user is gone. It may not be a measurable difference but as basically no site respects it and those that do aren’t a big problem in the first place it doesn’t matter all that much
Their* privacy
cheers, was intrigued if this was an alternative for LibreWolf. Hope it’ll come around!
Idk much about the privacy features, but I’ve been using it for the past day and it’s way faster and better optimised then floorp.
I’ve checked it out, and it looks really good, sort of like arc browser. It’s very stylish, and since it’s Firefox-based, supports ublock origin. It’s obviously not finished yet though, so I’ll stay on Floorp until it reaches beta or stable. I’m totally switching once it gets there
Are they based on Firefox ESR? That made me quit Floorp, it was pretty disappointing to be on a legacy reskin of Firefox.
Probably not, as the image says Zen is based on the latest Firefox and Floorp isn’t.
I like it so far. The weakness seems to be the size of the dev team and if the project has a future. Hopefully they are planning accordingly.
I went through a handful of threads and it seems mostly positive so far. One choice I wasn’t sure about was that they’re considering having a built in adblocker (based on something that’s not ublock origin). I would prefer if the browser just shipped with ublock origin instead.
https://www.privacyguides.org/en/browser-extensions/
As far as privacy focused browsers go, Mull seems to be the best still. I was exploring Zen for my day to day browser.
Arkenfox provide a more in-depth extensions-related info: https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/wiki/4.1-Extensions
Mull
Mull is Android only: https://divestos.org/pages/our_apps#mull.
Thanks!
Mull is Android only
Oops, fixed the comment
Appreciate the browser extensions link, thanks.
I love options but does anybody else wish devs would put their heads together and focus on improving ONE app rather than launch a millon similar forks?
More fox the merrier. We have Icecat, Iceweasel, Palemoon, Librewolf, Tor Browser, Mullvad Browser… I’m sure I’m missing many more for desktop.
Tried it a bit yesterday on Windows. Opened a Github link in it and Windows Defender killed the app saying it was a threat. Definitely a false positive but seemed odd to see the entire app just die instantly, lol.
So, how about the Cachy Browser from CachyOS? (aur)
This repository benefits from the knowledge and research provided by arkenfox, their documentation was vital to this revamp, so special thanks to their project. We do not use arkenfox’s user.js but we try to keep up with it, and we also consider it a great resource for users who want to find their own setup. We encourage users to find their own setup and to use our default configuration as something to build on top of. This is now easier thanks to the overrides, just place your own preferences in the proper location: -> ~/.cachy/cachy.overrides.cfg
Differences from LibreWolf:
- Enhanced security & privacy.
- Gentoo patches. Taken from Gentoo’s Firefox.
- uBlock Origin added.
- Moonlight theme added.
- Preset for “Profile Sync Daemon” and Firejail/Firejail(hardened) available.
- Custom Rules for uBlock Origin.
- Custom branding. Notes and thanks Some of the older prefs in this project are taken from pyllyukko and many more were investigated on bugzilla.
Thanks to the whole LibreWolf community.
Definitely very interesting! Thanks for sharing. Was thinking about trying CachyOS too.
This OS is good and I’ve used it for 6months but I want to switch because it packed all of these theming inside a you cannot really remove
Good to know - thanks. I, too, prefer to customize mine in my own way.
Yeah, and it’s sad because I didn’t find a distro that is really welled tweaked without theming (speaking of CachyOS and Garuda mainly), they are great as their using all the best optimizations in terms of performance but they add this theming…
Can’t you just not select the themes during the install process of cschyOS?
You can unselected testing etc… But cannot with all of the stuff like the fish shell, and so on. So you need to manually remove all this, and this is not good at all
For some reason I recall being able to choose that during install. I’ll fuck around with the installer later to check. But I agree I use don’t use fish either and had to figure out how to swap over to zsh. It was pretty painless though.
Yeah, so far my favourite distro for this is Bazzite, still allowed a lot of customization and is well optimised for gaming.
It’s a good distro, but seems to be too gaming focused, new techs for gaming that are not really useful
For that, check out Bluefin or Aurora. They’re all under the same umbrella as Bazzite, but with a user/developer focus instead of a gaming focus.
Yeah, the themeing is there. But you can easily uninstall it and other core CachyOS-packages, they’re just packages after all. (I’ve done it)
The other way would be to start with Arch and add CachyOS repositories, that way you can also profit from the v3/v4 packages.
That’s cool but the CachyOS repo is not the most interesting thing, the pre-optimized desktop is really nice
Well, there is no native .deb package and “There is no plan for official .deb pkg”.
Source:
https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/issues/328
That makes sense as packing for a bunch of distros is a lot of work vs just using Flatpak.