Vance was brutally burned during a campaign stop, ironically at a firefighters’ union conference.
  • SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    “Semper Fi guys,” Vance said, seeming to signpost his background as a Marine to get the hecklers to stop.

    “Isn’t this a magic incantation that I can invoke anytime to clear me of ill will?”

  • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I think it’s important to note that if you only read headlines here, you might think there was overwhelming disapproval from the firefighters union. If you get your news from right wing rags, you don’t hear the boos, you only hear the cheers. I’d say it was pretty mixed listening to the video, in fact more cheers than jeers. Of course that’s all meaningless as we have been digitally editing crowd reactions for years now and news agencies cherry pick what they want you to hear.

    The point is, go out and vote. Don’t you dare think this race is in the bag, it is a hell of a lot closer than articles like this would make you believe and the actual hatred for the right is WAY less than you might imagine.

  • girlfreddy@lemmy.ca
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    5 months ago

    Vance’s team is already attempting to spin his dismal reception, lauding his bravery for stepping into hostile territory.

    They can spin it all they want but he wasn’t in a gd firefight ffs.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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      5 months ago

      And they’re firefighters. They lean conservative. Not as much as cops, but they still lean conservative. Yeah, it was a union, but so is the police union.

      • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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        5 months ago

        Proof that fire fighters lean conservative nationally? Because in my experience that’s very much not true.

    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      5 months ago

      One of Trenton NJ’s specialty pies is a mustard pizza. You won’t believe me but they’re actually good.

        • ripcord@lemmy.world
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          5 months ago

          It doesn’t sound good at all but I would absolutely try it. It just sounds too interesting.

        • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          5 months ago

          Have you ever been to NJ? Literally the entire state is lousy with incredible local pizza joints. If you live in the state and order from a pizza chain, there is something wrong with you mentally.

          And yeah, there is a type of tomato pie that is specific to Trenton, and it is known for it around the rest of the state (and PA, and perhaps NY). Google “Trenton Tomato Pie.”

          Trenton is a shit city (NJ should do better for their capital city), but people often forget that it has an insanely rich history that goes back to the Revolutionary War. It’s more recent history (early 1900s) includes a ton of Italian immigrants.

          That said, I love mustard and I love pizza, but they don’t go together. That’s a travesty.

          • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            5 months ago

            The Golden Gate Bridge is held up by Trenton steel. The city definitely isn’t what it used to be but the food is still great

            • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              5 months ago

              Yeah it’s a bummer. I don’t know if it’s a corruption problem, or what, but it’s unfortunate that NJ can’t/hasn’t/won’t fix the city up. It’s still their state capital.

      • castlebravo404@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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        5 months ago

        Bottoms up in Richmond VA has one called the State Fair: Spicy brown mustard, sausage, caramelized onions and roasted red peppers.

        Years ago when I had it I remember it being surprisingly good.

    • mPony@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      lickspittle

      I’m so glad this term is coming back into modern usage. It showed up twice in one episode of HOTD (and a few others) and I was happy to hear it.

      Also, how tf has JDV been a politician for this long without the ability to be likeable and/or know his audience for a public speaking event? Holy shit.

      • The Snark Urge@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        5 months ago

        If it matters, I didn’t hear it recently at all, and it’s not a word I use often - it’s just that when I went deep into my lexicon for the best word for him, that’s what I came up with. Maybe the lickspittles are the ones bringing it back.

  • azimir@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    Lay off Vance, everyone! The risk of actually showing how stupid and robotic this guy is is that he might get replaced on the VP candidate slot. He’s a terrible choice that’s driving people away, but if he gets replaced literally a bowl of soup would be a better choice.

    • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Nah I think a replacement does worse. Not because the replacement would be worse, but it shows insane weakness/ stupidity/ inability to have a coherent strategy on the part of a Trump campaign. It shows that these guys don’t know what it takes to win an election; and giving your vote to a team that doesn’t know how to win an election is a wasted vote. Its the same as why Biden was struggling; losing charges compound interest because viability is a key component of whether or not people vote for you. If you aren’t perceived as viable because of your polling, it bites double.

      • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
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        5 months ago

        This is my feeling as well. For Trump to replace Vance means Trump admitting he made a bad call. He makes horrible calls constantly, but I don’t see him admitting to a single one.

        • SacralPlexus@lemmy.world
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          5 months ago

          He wouldn’t admit it. He would find something to blame on Vance (probably wouldn’t be a strain) and then “You’re Fired!” and the red hats would chuckle and never miss a beat.

          • ArtVandelay@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            5 months ago

            I wonder if Vance then makes the talk show circuit and turns anti-Trump while hyping his new tell-all book

        • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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          5 months ago

          It also kinda nukes all their bitching about replacing Biden.

          Biden was never officially nominated. Vance was. It’s a much bigger deal that shows weakness in the party.

      • someguy3@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        You get into the role of electors, who are supposed to submit the votes for who best represents the state’s choice or something like that. This was written back when it would take weeks to get to DC, so who knows what would be there.

    • Deadeyegai@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      5 months ago

      …so you’re suggesting some kind of “replacement theory”… Go on…those dumb dumbs would hate if the meaning of that phrase got flipped. lol

    • AGreenPurple@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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      5 months ago

      What I don’t get as an outsider - this guy (like other equally weird persons as for example Mrs. Palin) is in a rather high political position.

      How in the world are these people elected? Is it only about being in the preferred party or were their opponents even more incompetent?

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Yes, but RFK may or may not be. And at this point trump might put the wrong RFK on his ticket and get the brain worm guy instead of the dead politician.

  • orcrist@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    Someone pointed it out on a slightly different issue the other day, but we already know how Trump treats workers, because he was president for 4 years. Voters haven’t forgotten that.

  • kinkles@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    I don’t like how this article hyperbolizes the amount of booing. Compare the moments of booing to the very end with the mix of cheers/jeers where that sounds like the entire audience giving a reaction.

    Yes it’s important that jorkin depeanus vance got booed but misrepresenting the level of heckling from the crowd isn’t journalism that respects its readers.