The father of the mass shooting suspect accused of killing four people at Apalachee High School in Winder, Georgia, told investigators this week he had purchased the gun used in the killings as a holiday present for his son in December 2023, according to two law enforcement sources with direct knowledge of the investigation.
Colt Gray, a 14-year-old student, is accused of killing two students and two teachers with an AR-style rifle in the Wednesday shooting. Nine more people were hospitalized.
One source told CNN the AR-15-style rifle was purchased at a local gun store as a Christmas present.
And there was another shooting today with 1 dead. 2 shootings in one week. More thoughts and prayers of course. 🙄
Why these people giving weapons to their kids before they’re even in high school?
People like this put the “toxic” in toxic masculinity. “Oh, my son is having a hard time maturing and posted school shooting threats online? He just needs to grow up, firearms will help with that!”
Can we please get gun reform yet!? This doesn’t happen in other countries…
Should be illegal to buy a child a gun until they are 18. You can 2A all you want about defending the country but you fuckers ain’t gonna tell me you will have a child in your militia. Can’t drive until 16, can’t smoke until 18, can’t drink until 21 but you can go out and fire deadly weapons whenever your parents say it’s cool.
21 now to smoke.
And hopefully they keep charging the parents. Got kids? Got firearms? They better be locked in a safe and only the parent should know the code…some people are dumb as fuck.
I didn’t know childproof door locks were so serious now adays.
you fuckers ain’t gonna tell me you will have a child in your militia
“We absolutely will.” -Conservatives
If they can work in meat processors, they can join the militia.
/s
I think part of the reason for this is that you have a lot of these dipshit parents who see headlines like this and think “the LiBeRaLs are going to use this week’s school shooting as justification for taking our guns; I’ll show them, I’ll give my children guns and be the proof that guns aren’t the problem”. At least, with how often I see the sentiment of “well my kids have guns and haven’t killed anybody” across social media, that’s my assumption.
They all think they’re responsible gun owners. And maybe some of them are. Hell, maybe most of them are. But a non-zero amount aren’t, and we need to have safeguards in place instead of “nothing we can do but pray for stronger doors on the schools”.
Except responsible gun owners wouldn’t buy their child a gun and give them access to it whenever they please. Any firearms I may or may not possess would be locked in a safe which no one but any spouse I may hypothetically have had access to. Unfortunately I lost all my firearms in a tragic boating accident a few years back.
What I’m trying to say is that, while the government shouldn’t be allowed to come check that people have their guns locked up when not in use, there should absolutely be repercussions for anyone found to not be doing so.
Why giving waepons to a child at all?
I could see if you’re really into guns and you want to teach your kid the importance of gun safety, etc. But that firearm should 110% be under lock and key so that the child has no way to access it outside of parental supervision. This sounds like gross negligence, and a disturbing trend of parents for whatever reason buying troubled youth firearms in what I think most would consider counter to good judgement.
If your kid is really into guns, then buy them a bb gun for fucks sake. Teach them gun safety with something that won’t kill anyone. What kind of brain dead parents are out there thinking that buying a child a gun is a good idea? THE KID’S NOT EVEN OLD ENOUGH TO DRIVE FFS
You know… This whole gun thing. You’re on to something. Some people are absolutely brain dead and have no critical thinking skills. That’s what scares me about guns. Even with the argument that guns are just tools. Have you looked around America and seen the types of people that exist? Now imagine them all owning guns.
Fucking scary.
Why these people giving weapons to their kids after the sheriff first contacted you to investigate school shooting threats your kid made online,
My father also bought me a gun as a birthday present as a teenager, and looking back it was wholly inappropriate and dangerous. Granted, I never had thoughts of killing people.
A teenager’s brain chemistry is rapidly changing due to hormones, etc. I remember a couple days when I was about 14 where I became massively depressed for no apparent reason, just likely a temporary chemical imbalance in my brain. If I had a gun, who knows what I would have done.
Were you always in possession of it, or did he keep it properly stored until he took you shooting?
I was in possession of it, but he kept the ammo “hidden” on top of a cabinet.
I had a shotgun and .223 in the back window gun rack of my truck through middle school and high school (started driving at 14 with a school permit) with shells and rounds in the glove box. Nothing was ever locked where I grew up either; homes, vehicles, businesses.
Granted I grew up in a town with under 1,000 people and the closest ‘city’ to us was an hour away and had a population of 25k.
That was forty years ago and I feel a lot differently about things and the world is a different place but when I grew up more students and teachers had guns in their vehicles at school than didn’t. Everyone hunted, I pulled off and shot a coyote in pack that was stalking around one of my teachers herd of cows on the way to school one winter. I took the coyote into class and gave it to him since I had him first period.
I totally get it. My dad is from a town like that, if not smaller. Place I’m from isn’t a lot bigger, but it definitely wasn’t like his. They probably still carry hunting rifles to school. They get like a week off for deer hunting season because they wouldn’t show anyways
That just gave me some deep seated nostalgia, I forgot how much I enjoyed that week off of school we’d get. I feel so out of place trying to get my sons raised up sometimes. My entire grade size was never over 37 and that was with five combined towns going to the same school. We live in a town of fifty thousand people in a different state and everything feels so big to me even though I’ve lived here nearly twenty years. Anytime I’ve stayed in a real city for more than a night or two my anxiety goes into overdrive, I don’t know how people do it.
And people wonder why criminals in the US have so ready access to firearms. In some areas, just steal a truck, and get a shitload of material to commit crimes for free!
I was also gifted firearms as a child. They were kept inside a locked safe that I didn’t have the combination for when not being used for hunting or target shooting. As much as I enjoy guns, hunting, and shooting, I can also see that responsibility goes beyond “it’s guaranteed in the constitution” or equivalent bullshit.
It’s the perfect hunting rifle for when a herd of deer stampedes.
Or 30-50 feral hogs.
Lost a lot of good men out there in the deer stampede hunts
I’m waiting for someone to explain to me how an automatic gun/rifle is needed for hunting animals/deer.
AR-15’s are not automatic. Also, automatic firearms are already illegal for the majority of civilians.
See I know nothing about guns
To the automatic part, that’s what the bump stocks were about and why the banning. It helped to turn an assault rifle into acting like an automatic weapon by using recoil to bump the stock which the bounce made it rapidly tap the trigger finger and fire much faster.
That honestly sounds like a safety issue, if you can lose control of how many rounds you might fire in a direction
Call me crazy, but I don’t think children should own guns.
Call me crazy, but I don’t think civilians should own AR-15s
And they were designed and marketed for civilian use. Imagine if it’s legal to purchase military grade assault rifles.
It is legal… so long it was manufactured before 1986.
I grew up in a rural area with just my mom. We had two handguns and a shotgun hidden in the house. Anytime we went walking in the pasture a gun came with us in case of snakes or wild dogs and a couple of times per year i was required to shoot at cans with each one. I wasn’t interested in them and didn’t like shooting them, but understood her desire for me to feel comfortable using them ‘just in case’. We often took long road trips to visit family and would stop to nap in rest areas for a few hours. The small handgun was always beside the driver’s seat. It was the 70s and early 80s and nothing was locked. 22 in the nightstand drawer, 38 in a dresser drawer, and shotgun behind her bedroom door - all loaded and ready. It didn’t seem weird; it was just what my mom did to try to keep us safe.
Not everybody is fortunate to have responsibility and be mentally sane. Even the father in this case probably told the kid the to dos and not to dos of owning a gun (or not. Idk man). But you know, all this happened.
Yeah. I don’t really know why i shared all of that. Just struggling to make sense of something senseless, i guess. i visit several schools per day and we all whine about the inconvenience of badge fobs, locked classrooms, being required to put the alert app on our phones and then having it constantly going off all day with every drill at every school, etc. Then when something like this happens i feel shitty for whining, heartbroken for those families, and thankful that it wasn’t my schools, teachers, kids, … It sucks. And the worst part is that we know it will happen again and again. Rambling…sorry.
You are just showing sympathy toward others. That’s okay.
Yeah all good man. I definitely appreciated your story. I also think that responsible citizens should be able to carry. We shouldn’t be handing guns to untrained maniacs out here. Ideally, your family would be a shining example of how to be responsible gun owners.
he gifted him a gun to protect him from school shooting. that’s right-wing logic
Did he think the kid was going to carry it around the school all day every day? Did he know that school shootings tend to happen … in schools?
I was gonna write a witty but bleak reply to this but I’m not gonna. Have a nice day
But but the real issue is them being exposed to drag queens!
imagine how much worse this would be if the child in question went to drag time story hour instead of being given a killing machine! /s
Drag queen story times are of the devil! ( The Christians say while attending church where someone dresses up and reads stories).
Did they really name him after a gun too?
Many guns are named after people who distributed, produced, or designed them.
So he is a guy named after a gun that was named after a guy.
Americans need to analyze their views surrounding guns. And take their time. It’s mind-blowing to try to make them understand guns are risky, regardless of handling, trigger discipline, or any other bullshit they tell themselves. The mere existence of guns is dangerous, the bigger the number of guns out there is the amount of accidents, shootings and massacres waiting to happen out there.
WE FUCKING HAVE, DIPSHIT
NEWS FLASH, THOSE OF US WHO THINK ABOUT IT HAVE LESS POWER THAN THE EVIL MONSTERS WHO MAKE MONEY OFF OF THE GUNS
AND THATS WHY THEY STAY LEGAL
Take your meds.
Because I’d have to be medicated or a basement dweller to have an angry reaction to that
the mere existence of literally anything is dangerous. Guns are just uniquely primed to kill humans.
Knives scare me more than guns, just based of the pure frequency of how often people use them.
Who have you been talking to? 80 percent of Americans want gun control laws like a universal background check. For a general question of more strict laws support is at 60 percent.
Here’s a former Supreme Court judge saying the conservatives have hijacked the second amendment and we in response we should repeal it.
Washington Post reports that around that same period 21 percent of Americans were ready to repeal it.
We’re out here, and we’re pissed. We just get angrier every time time we see a headline and every time it turns out that common sense gun laws were subverted by people in authority.
People in authority thanks to gerrymandering. The republikkklan party is a fucking joke. If you support them, you’re a fucking clown and you’re responsible for this kind of shit. I have been hoping for years they’d see the light and realize they’re getting played, but here we are.
VOTE!! If you can, volunteer to give rides to those that couldn’t vote without it.
Here’s a former Supreme Court judge saying the conservatives have hijacked the second amendment and we in response we should repeal it.
based. The ruling of the second is unconstitutional anyway.
For all the talk over roe v wade being “unconstitutional and the wong way to do it” the conservatives sure seem to like the second amendment.
Let me analyze this for a minute… Nope not giving up my rights because criminals can’t control themselves from committing crimes.
I mean Jesus fucking Christ HALF OF MY FRIENDS ARE TEACHERS IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND EVERY TIME I READ THE HEADLINE I’M LIKE WELL IS IT GONNA BE SOMEONE I KNOW THIS TIME
TRUST ME LOTS OF AMERICANS HAVE EXAMINED OUR OWN VIEWS ABOUT GUNS
It’s funny (in a sad way) how people who frequent shooting ranges - which usually have very strict rules regarding firearm discipline and handling safety - are fine with allowing every schmuck in the world to walk around packing. If that shit is so important on a gun range, why would it be unimportant out in the world?
Sorry remind me when if ever you’ve walked through a shopping center and needed to know where your safest exits were? Where you’d hide with the thickest cover? Thought about which stairwell might be safest?
Not just a shopping center. How about your workplace. Or church. Or which corner of your house you’d survive longest in.
Thought about all those things, have you? Wow congrats, aren’t you so ahead of the game.
Talking as if all my friends and family haven’t ever once given a thought to guns. What a lazy, facile, mindlessly cruel claim to make.
What a bad person with an ugly heart you are to make it.
Fuck you.
You ever been anywhere outside America or even your mom’s basement?
Welcome to America…
I was gifted a shotgun at 15. It was a double barrel break action shotgun from my grandmother.
I kept it in a gun rack my grandfather left me hanging on my wall. I never had issues, but if one of my friends wanted access, it probably could have been stolen.
Lock up your guns.
Guns kill people. Wow it’s so complicated. Americans need to examine their culture
What’s wrong with legos. Nobody is ever killed with legos.
I mean, they are basically microplastic. Having said that, my kid loves em and I still buy them for him.
Lego has shifted (or is trying to shift) towards a more plant based, biodegradable plastic. They have to put a big effort because their entire product line is based on a material that has (rightfully so) negative connotations.
I’d rather die than step on one, though.
I have wanted to amputate my foot after stepping on one.
Multi-colored dark carpet is the best place to scatter a few handfuls, then sit back and watch.
Well we found Dr. Evil…
it’s odd that they used “holiday present” in the headline, but the article says-
One source told CNN the AR-15-style rifle was purchased at a local gun store as a Christmas present.
it’s like they didn’t want christmas in the same headline as the mass shooting or something?
Well, now I know why the dad has been arrested on second degree murder and a whole slew of charges.
If you can Ban someone from buying their CHILD a GUN after that Child makes THREATS TO SHOOT UP HIS SCHOOL that’s SOCIALISM! SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!
Child soldiers are an essential bulwark against government tyranny!
Welp, send the man to jail for aiding and abetting murder.
He has, in fact, been arrested.
Fuck yeah!
