Maybe Lindsay “no joy in real life” Graham is so joyless because of all the JD Vance-sponsored school shootings.
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If you can’t tell the difference between a “fact” and the random opinion of some bot, you might want to do some self reflection in general.
It’s not really a bot’s opinion though? It’s reporting on salon in general, and letting you know that the reporting has a bias, which means generally, it might promote parts of the story that show Vance in a bad light compared to other reporting, and the. The Ground News link shows that reporting on this topic across several sources tends to be pretty non biased and factual. That’s all good information to have, and saying otherwise means you want to let yourself be misled.
And everything other than joining the topic and the source is written by humans who are trying to keep people informed.
It’s the opinion of one person.
I mean, it’s pulling from MBFC and ground news, which are not both owned by Dave Van Zandt, and he doesn’t work alone. Also, when compared to other fact checking organizations, MBFC performs well, from what I’ve read. Well enough that if you find their output uncomfortable, you should be second guessing yourself.
Countries ranked in descending order by number of school shootings from 2009-2018:
- United States: 288
- Mexico: 8
- South Africa: 6
- Afghanistan: 3
- Brazil, Canada, France: 2
- Azerbaijan, China, Estonia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Kenya, Russia, Turkey: 1
One of these is not like the others. This isn’t exactly a fact of life in other parts of the world.
That’s all just shooting, right, not generally a violence situation in a school?
Per capita?
Population of the US: 330m
Brazil: 200m
South Africa: 62m
Afghanistan: 40m
Mexico: 100m
Still not looking so great.
Per gun? Guns are people too, right?
That sounds like a lot more work than just typing a country into DDG and checking the Wikipedia entry.
More data:
Top 10 Countries with Highest Gun Ownership (Civilian guns owned per 100 people):
- United States - 120.50
- Falkland Islands - 62.10
- Yemen - 52.80
- New Caledonia - 42.50
- Serbia - 39.10
- Montenegro - 39.10
- Canada - 34.70
- Uruguay - 34.70
- Cyprus - 34
- Finland - 32.40
10 Countries with the Most Gun Deaths (Total gun deaths):
- Brazil - 49,437
- United States - 37,040
- Mexico - 22,119
- India - 14,711
- Colombia - 13,171
- Venezuela - 10,599
- Philippines - 9,268
- Guatemala - 5,981
- Nigeria - 5,103
- Iraq - 4,424
Those numbers aren’t right.
First, the total-gun-death numbers are not population-adjusted and therefore useless without additional context. The same article does have the population-adjusted numbers and the USA is, predictably, not in the top ten.
Second, once the numbers are adjusted for population, there are some very strange results. For example, apparently Iraq actually has slightly fewer gun deaths per capita than the USA. Nigeria, the country where Boko Haram is based, has four times fewer gun deaths per capita than the USA?! Clearly the gun-death numbers correspond more to how well records are kept in a country than they do to the actual numbers of gun deaths.
Oh, and those gun death numbers include suicides, not just murders. Most gun deaths in the USA are suicides. A suicide is technically a gun death, but not usually the sort that people have in mind when discussing a school shooting.
everything you said is true. i just wanted to add something to the suicide point: owning a gun has been tied with an increased risk of suicide. source
here’s a quote from the link that i think gives a good summary of the problem:
“Suicide attempts are often impulsive acts, driven by transient life crises,” the authors write. “Most attempts are not fatal, and most people who attempt suicide do not go on to die in a future suicide. Whether a suicide attempt is fatal depends heavily on the lethality of the method used — and firearms are extremely lethal. These facts focus attention on firearm access as a risk factor for suicide especially in the United States, which has a higher prevalence of civilian-owned firearms than any other country and one of the highest rates of suicide by firearm.”
That said, where there’s a will, there is indeed a way. Japan for example has abysmal suicide rates, they have a huge shame culture and it’s culturally (more) accepted with the seppuku and the suicide forests and all, and they also have virtually 0 gun ownership. Suicide is still very easy without a gun, and a gun is not even the most effective method statistically (though I hesitate to say what is because it’s literally accessible to most of the world’s population within a 10-20min walk at all times. Don’t do it, seek help, keep fighting.)
And again the old and stupid claim from the gun nuts: suicides by firearms are no firearm related deaths…
“You cat ladies just need to make more babies to replace the children killed by gunfire in schools,” said the not insane guy who wants to rule the country and women’s bodies under Project 2025.
Jokes aside, Trump is clearly falling apart. The Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society have gone all-in on Vance. He’s the real would-be dictator. Once elections become rigged at the federal level, he will be President and your vote won’t matter.
“‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens”
Fact of American life.
So lets issue all the students guns?
Just give all the kids a few nukes.
If Mutually Assured Destruction works for international relations, surely this works for schools.
No, no it isn’t.
-residents of like 98% of the rest of the world
Trump gets shot at and the country says there is no room for political violence, we wish him well. Children get shot every single day, that’s just a matter of life, child-sized coffin sales sky-rocket.
But really, why aren’t more politicians being shot? I think if they were the targets instead of innocent children, gun reform would be both swift and severe.
Now, I’m not saying that political violence is acceptable, but I’m certainly not not saying it.
Becauss the people who go out and try to solve their problems with violence on a scale that would give us that pattern are the republican base. There are plenty of examples outside of that group, obviously, but even the guy who tried to shoot Trump had been a republican until very shortly before the attempt.
Just as natural as love between a man and a couch.
So my take away here is that JD Couchfucker here is saying neither he or Trump are powerful enough to do anything. Is that really the message you want to be sending during your campaign for the highest office in America?
How about this.
Take JD Vance saying that this is just a “fact of life” and start playing that on political ads all over Georgia. I don’t like the idea of exploiting tragedy for political purposes but I think people who are considering voting for this waste of oxygen should know that he considers their kids nothing more than collateral damage.
A fact of American life because of idiotic gun policy.
Notice how Vance and the other right-wing pricks don’t apply the same reasoning to abortion. Nope, in THAT case they can come up with law after law after law to address the issue. When it comes to the lives of children already here? Pfffttt… perish the thought and the child.
Ok, so logically GOP presidential candidate shooting are also. Thoughts & prayers & get over it and all that.
They might end up regretting all that gun support.
Funnily enough, this how he conveyed that message:
imagine signing up for a career where your job is to take bullets for fucking couchfucker
I see some room in the back. 🤷♂️
They don’t provide the same level of protection to the school children.
Quick and dirty:
