This seems like a solid choice for those of use looking for a obsidian-like replacement. Personally tried all editors out there, but nothing is able to defeat my love for obsidian. However, i look forwards to trying out Haptic when it comes to Linux. Currently it only supports Web and Mac. But state Linux and Windows support is on-the-way.
Kudos to selfh.st that provides consistent updates within this community and who shared this among other cool projects this week -> https://selfh.st/newsletter/2024-09-06/?ref=this-week-in-self-hosted-newsletter
I tried every single proprietary and open source , even self host , markdown notes apps. Obsidian is … just, i always go back to it. I have it with the plugin “Remotely Save”, synced encrypted with OneDrive. It just works, every fucking where with its own app. solid as a petrified dump
I’m early onto my journey with this and tossing between logseq and obsidian. Thoughts?
Logseq and Obsidian are only similar on the first look, but very different usage wise. Both are very open with a plugin system, and you can modify them to turn them into one eachother.
So, if you want only FOSS, then Logseq is the only choices you have.
But Obsidian is, even though it’s proprietary, very sane. Open plug-in system, active community, great devs who don’t have much against FOSS, and more.
Obsidian
- More similar to a classic note taking app, like OneNote, but with a lot of features. Hierarchical structure, and more of an “essay” style, where you store a lot of text in one page.
- Page linking is only done when you think it makes sense
- Has been a bit longer around than Logseq, feels more polished
- Great sync and mobile app, which support plugins from what I’ve heard
Logseq
- Non-linear outliner. Every page is on the same level, but within a text passage, the indentation matters (parent-child-relationship)
- You create a LOT of more pages. Most of my pages are empty. They are mainly there for linking topics. I rarely create pages manually.
- The journal is where you write most stuff. You then link each block to a page.
- Logseq a bit “special”. May not be for everyone. I for example am a bit of a disorganised thinker, who mentally links a lot of knowledge and throws concepts around all the time. Logseq is my second nature, because it’s more flexible. My GF on the other hand is more structured, and prefers something like Apple Notes, or, if she would care about note taking, something like Obsidian.
- The mobile app isn’t great. It’s fine when I’m not at home, but the desktop version is the “proper” one, and mobile/ iPad a second class citizen.
- Sync is only experimental for now. It will soon be officially supported (hopefully) and self hostable, but it worked fine for me.
As soon as one of these Obsidian alternatives has real-time collaboration and a mobile interface, I’m ready to switch.
The real power of obsidian is similar to why Raspberry Pi is so popular, it has such a large community that plugins are amazing and hard to duplicate.
That being said, I use this to live sync between all my devices. It works with almost the same latency as google docs but its not meant for multiple people editing the same file at the same time
Yeah, I need something to collaborate with my partner in realtime. We’ve got a hacky setup in Obsidian using dataview to join separate notes to a read-only one, so we don’t have collisions, but I would love something better.
Could syncthing work?
Syncthing works on a file level basis. If files are changed on both devices at the same time, it will have sync conflicts.
The comment two above this links to a tool that literally does live syncing on a line by line level. Unless you’re editing the same lines at the same time you’re not going to get sync conflicts.
I use it as well and it works wonderfully in real time.
I wouldn’t know. All I am saying is that Syncthing would not work for this purpose.
Lol can’t even open the “web-app” wiki https://app.haptic.md/notes on my phone
What advantages would this have over Obsidian, which is already all local unless you explicitly make it not so?
Looks like you can self-host a web version of it, which is handy. Plus it’s always nice having open-source alternatives to closed-source, commercially-led apps.
If you’d like to learn more about Haptic, why it’s being built, what its goals are and how it differs from all the other markdown editors out there, you can read more about it here.
As others have noted, the app doesn’t work on mobile yet. Anybody willing to share the content here for mobile users?
This looks cool, but can’t beat Joplin. Accessing securely my notes on multiple devices I synced on my Nextcloud is priceless.
Is that unique to Joplin?
I could never get NextCloud on android to sync files back to the servers
local-first
web app
I’m confused, which is it?
You host it locally and use a web browser to access it.
It’s a web app wrapped in Tauri. So basically a desktop app, but the web app can be hosted too.
Gotcha! Thanks for the ELI5 🙂
How does it compare to logseq? It’s been my obsidian replacement
Any comparisons to SilverBullet.md? It’s my favorite so far
How do you like the newer versions? I liked it in the beginning, but then there were breaking changes and new concepts and it started to feel a bit too complicated. So I am taking a break until things cool down
What issues did you have? I have updated recently and didnt notice any problems so far. Also do you have any suggestion for alternatives? For me personally silverbullet is great for desktop usage, not so much on mobile though.
