Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel.

The US president said he wanted Gaza residents to move to neighbouring nations, and that they could be displaced “temporarily or could be long-term”, after a phone call with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Saturday.

“I said to him: I’d love you to take on more because I’m looking at the whole Gaza Strip right now and it’s a mess, it’s a real mess. I’d like him to take people,” Trump said, when asked about the call.

He also suggested Egypt as a destination for Gaza residents, and said he would raise the issue with President Abdel Fatah al-Sisi on Sunday.

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    WHERE ARE ALL THE GENOCIDE JOE BOTS AT??? Fucking idiots, I can’t believe people got swayed by such obvious propaganda into not voting.

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    Protest voters looking more and more stupid by the day. And will continue to do so every day for the next 4 years minimum.

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    Oh sure, just take the Palestenians, and shove them somewhere else. Good, endless angry people consolidating on another territory.

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    Native Americans suggest Americans should leave, “Just clean out “ the whole country, allow it to be rewilded and return to how it should be.

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    It’s like those fairy tales Zionists try to convince you about that every belief system should seek their own nation. It’s easy to come up with free land when you have zero value for the people living on it.

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      Clean out a particular ethnicity. Ethnic cleansing is the goal, genocide is a mean.

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    I guess it’s time for all the “protest voters” to either admit they never gave a shit about Palestine or admit they fell for Russian propaganda.

    Of course that’s if they remember about Palestine. A shiny red ball might have rolled past and distracted them.

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      It’s time for people to understand that the blue and red party in america are the same shit and voting someone else or not supporting the government is the only way to make a change.

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        Voting for one of the clowns that got <1,000,000 votes isn’t going to accomplish anything.

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            Even an extra million split between the greens, libertarians, socialist workers, etc isn’t significant compared to the 70+million that the Democrats and Republicans each get.

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      @generalemergency,
      Dnc centrists who wouldnt let any possible supporters of Palestinians into the democratic party convention are the real unsung heros here, right?

      Do your posts like this one make you feel better about yourself? Thats why you’re posting isnt it. You told yourself you ‘held your nose’ while voting but you didnt really hold your nose at all. You were happy to drop every semblence of basic human morality and dignity in order to win-- and then you lost anyway.. Now you’re angry at those on your own side who didnt shit their own bed and roll around in it like you did.

      To win at all in the future and reclaim the demographic losses, the dems need to admit that what was done in Plaestine was wrong. They need to admit Biden and Harris both were not doing their job and not representing the working class, but were simply chasing corporate and special interest campaign dollars. If the party can do that it might survive. Otherwise its probably dead, becuase No one thinks the democrats stand for anything, and the rage evident at the elites related to Luigi’s prosecution is increasingly the response toward out of touch dem leaders. No one supports corporatists so get your shit together.

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          Watching you comment, I despair that dems didnt learn a damned thing from this election loss.

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            And what lesson would that be? Because I’ve seen that line of thinking parroted a suspicious amount lately and I’ve seen one person actually explain what they mean.

            So enlighten me.

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          The party with the best option to beat trump is still walking around with no future because it has its head up its own arse. They cant admit that abandoning the working class and embracing zionist murder for some campaign cash is going to keep them from winning in the future. And Hasbara is still paying its trolls, clearly.

          What makes you think bots left? They are probably low cost to run once theyve been set up. By bots maybe you mean the opinions you dont like dont post as much? Yeah everyone feels defeated and hopeless. Most of my friends wont read the news anymore. I dont blame them.

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              Except to the Palestinians who aren’t being massacred like they were for the ceasefire. Pretty common for Democrats to say things like this though… what was it that Biden said, “You ain’t black unless you vote for me!”

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        It’s funny you think there will be legitimate elections in 4 years. I mean Republicans are already pushing ways to give Trump a third term. So like, congrats on having Gaza screwed even harder while simultaneously throwing away any semblance of democracy?

        At least the corporate corrupt Dems gave a small window for changing things democratically while not screwing over Trans people in the USA as well.

        By abstaining you allowed the greater evil to prevail, not prevented any evil from occuring.

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            Nah, but I can live with knowing I at least tried to stop literal Nazis from gaining absolute power.

            Can you say the same?

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              Do you think Musk wouldn’t pay Democrat to get what he wanted? He literally manage to get his wealth while 2 Democrat presidents held office.

              I believe he just change teams because it was expected after Biden left the race.

              I do believe he knew before it is official that Biden would drop and Trump assassination attempt and moment was clear that he will get the same votes as before so he diced to get favor early.

              Some timeline:

              Trump assassination attempt was on July 13, 2024

              Public Musk endorsement was on the same day.

              Biden left the race on July 21, 2024

              I do believe that while he might not be publicly a Nazi he will get what he need throughout Democrat president based on his history.

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        Dnc centrists who wouldnt let any possible supporters of Palestinians into the democratic party convention are the real unsung heros here, right?

        The guy you’re responding to never said that. You’ve discredited your entire comment in the first sentence and there’s no reason to even bother reading the rest of whatever you wrote.

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          My dood, it is a two party system. Both parties sucked shit when it came to this issue, and the DNC lost votes due to this fact (as one side seems to like some genocide anyway). This issue across both awful parties is implied in the first post and is countered in the “discredited” comment, you know with the whole “held your nose” line. Guess you did not read that far…

          You don’t have to agree with the statement, but if you read that “discredited” comment you would see both of you; Know the worse party of the two won, and more importantly one of you seems to have an idea on how not to have the same thing happen again.

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            My dood, when he opens with a flat out lie about what the guy he’s responding to said, I’m not going to bother reading the rest of it. I thought that I made that pretty clear. So trying to have a discussion about the rest of what he had to say isn’t going to be very productive.

            Yes, it’s a two party system and both sucked on this issue. But one sucks a whole fucking lot more on it and also sucks on literally every other issue there is. And I’m not going to coddle a bunch of people who can’t see that.

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              My dood, I am telling you they did not open with a flat out lie about the comment they are replying to. They are making a point you don’t like, sure! But no where was there a lie about what people said, just inferences made.

              Like cool, you dislike what was said, but spending more time defending your stance of not reading then just reading and downvoting is wild and silly.

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    This makes me think of the many people within the chain between Trump and Netanyahu. The spineless motherfuckers personally handling these weapons need to grow the fuck up and start replacing warheads with packet ramen.

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    Great fucking job, bothsiders. Now you get Genocide++.

    I really hope you’re happy that your conscience is clean now the guy who’s main spokesman said Gaza’s ‘waterfront property could be very valuable’ and who himself declared it ‘could be better than Monaco’, clearly with an eye towards beachfront real estate, has the power to make that happen for his own gain.

    This was entirely predictable, and we told you this would happen. Trump told you so himself. The dems weren’t perfect by any stretch, but Kamala absolutely wasn’t looking at the situation as to how she could personally profit through real estate development if the Palestinians were just wiped off the map as quickly as possible. Trump likely had the choicest property mapped out, with property developers already submitting proposals.

    If you abstained because of both-sides re Israel, fuck you. You at best were played and at worst helped to play others, and now we ALL get to suffer.

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      600-900 aid trucks are entering Gaza every day and the bombs have stopped falling.

      Trump talks shit a lot, but until he actually does something the situation now is far better than it was under Biden.

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        You’re kidding, right? You think that aid is because of trump, when you’re responding in an article that says his stated motives are the opposite of that?

        Much of that aid was already secured before he took office. Shit takes time – especially in a war zone. Wait a month or so and get back to me on whether aid from the US continues. The US has been giving aid to many places that will continue for a short while until the new policies filter through.

        Listen to what the new moron-in-chief says, and notice that some policies take a bit of time to take effect. Like the US economy, for instance. Large systems don’t turn on a dime.

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          They could have gotten that aid in any time they wanted. It doesn’t just take time, it takes political will. The trucks were already there and the aid was all ready to go, they just had to be let in the border by the Zionist entity. They needed a ceasefire.

          I’ll definitely be watching what happens over the next weeks and months, but how about we actually do that instead of catastrophize every time the moron in chief says something stupid that he can’t enforce? Forcing Egypt and Jordan to take 1.5-2 million refugees is about as likely as Trump actually annexing Greenland. This shit isn’t happening.

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            Agreed 100%. If all Democrats do for the next four years is scream the sky is falling then they will lose even more voters in 2028. You don’t run a pro-genocide candidate & parade around with the Cheney’s if the sky is falling. That is called trying to lose.

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              They will double down and keep screaming the sky is falling and whoever disagrees with them will be labeled Nazi/Fascist.

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            The fascists have done an incredible job lulling people into a false sense of security with “Trump just says outrageous things to trigger the libs he’ll never actually do anything”.

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            You mean the pointless political charade to try and make trump look good as he proceeds to further enable and promote the genocide?

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              It’s fascinating how the situation in Gaza is objectively better (for now), and you sound almost disappointed because it wasn’t Joe Biden who achieved it. (And in fact, Joe kept the genocide going until the very last day of his presidency.)

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                The ceasefire was agreed under Biden, before the inauguration… Biden is not good for Palestine, but Trump is not better.

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                  Yeah, but it was pressure from Trump that achieved it, because when Israel told Biden to jump, he did as he was told.

                  Hence why he earned the moniker: Genocide Joe.

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              The genocide, at the moment, has entered a new phase without bombs or starvation. Let’s be clear: the genocide didn’t start on Oct 7th and it didn’t end with the ceasefire. Israel has always been a genocidal entity. We are just in a less violent phase.

              But even if this ceasefire is political it’s hardly a “charade”. It’s a real ceasefire! It’s really saving people’s lives! Without it, I don’t believe Gaza would have survived the winter - too much sickness and starvation. People are living right now who would otherwise be dead.

              Until Trump actually does something the situation is better now than it was under Biden.

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      Great fucking job, bothsiders. Now you get Genocide++.

      Sound like you still haven’t acknowledged the ongoing genocide or understand what is going on in gaza. There’s no such thing as genocide or genocide++ the same way there’s no holocaust or holocaust++. People who chose not to support any scum with blood on their hands have no guilt, they did the correct thing. Assuming you supported the red and blue parties you have more guilt than everyone else, you gave your vote to murderers. Instead of telling you to go fuck off like you did i’m going encourage you to document yourself on what’s going on in gaza and how governments worldwide are allowing it to happen.

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        The genocide in Ukraine and everything that happens to minorities in the US is your fault if you didn’t vote Harris.

        Sitting on the sideline with your thumb up your ass wasn’t going to somehow give us Mr. Rogers as president.

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      All this finger wagging because people criticized democrats sending billions in weapons which were used in the genocide? Somehow it’s protestors fault in this scenario.

      The degree to which you bend over backwards to support the legitimacy of a system where BOTH SIDES of the two-party system fully support israel is astonishing. You speak of others getting played, yet here you are getting played into thinking you can make a difference in a government that has fully supported israel since its establishment regardless of who is in power.

      https://youtube.com/watch?v=enb4WxWeH-Q

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          There’s a chance that Trump can terminally weaken the US. He can’t wage a war on the entire world. The Democrats were focused on destroying the Middle East. The Republicans are less focused and more chaotic.

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            And why can’t they wage war on the world? What are we gonna do about?

            And seems Trump is laser focused on erasing Palestine and giving his donors everything they promised.

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      The dems weren’t perfect by any stretch

      Totally.

      Enthusiastically helping Israel stack bodies for four years was definitely imperfect.

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        You’re right! If both options are bad, then we SHOULD let the worse one win!

        Hurray!

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          You don’t have any objective facts you can point to here to demonstrate that Trump is worse than Biden, and in the short-term, Trump is substantially better. The genocide continued literally up to the last day of Biden’s presidency.

          That’s the point. Calling the Democrats ‘imperfect’ on Israel isn’t just wrong, it’s vulgarly and sickeningly euphemistic.

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        Of everything I said, that’s the part you decided to focus on?

        e: not that trump had said he’d glass the region to build hotels?

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          I could not care less about what Trump says.

          I heard Biden, for four years, wring his hands publicly and pretend to give a shit, all while giving WMD’s to Israel every single time they demanded it, in full knowledge they were bombing hospitals, schools and kids.

          What I care about is what’s actually being done, and in the short-term, Trump’s actions are improving the situation. I’m sure his reasons for this are some form of self-enrichment, and I doubt that it will last, but that remains to be seen. Right now, things are better than they were a few weeks ago for the people in Gaza.

          Biden allowed the genocide to continue literally to his last day in office, despite all the soaring speeches and public statements he made about peace.

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    This is a horribly immoral and unjust thing to even suggest. That said, if the only other alternative is that they stay in Gaza and get exterminated by these psychos in Israel, then I have to think that relocation, and living, are the superior option. THAT said, none of the countries he’s talking about are going to take them.