• DaddleDew@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    For someone who wants to “expand” American territory, he’s doing a pretty good job at motivating states to secede.

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    9 days ago

    If Trump gets Luigi’d it will be because of something like this.

    Some hardcore Trump voter in California or similar is going to get the shaft and become dangerous. Its only a matter of time… might not even be from a blue state considering how vastly he is fucking everything up.

    • IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world
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      8 days ago
      1. Trump disbands FEMA
      2. A category 5 hurricane clobbers Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, etc.
      3. The states receive no federal aid.
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        That’s not how it’s gonna go. The aid will require a tribute most of which will be batshit insane laws. Want federal aid? Marijuana is criminalized again. Want federal aid? Abortion is illegal in that state. It will be another club used to bludgeon the American public.

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    10 days ago

    If that’s the federal governments response to an emergency in their state … why would the state want to stay inside the union?

    The federal government wants the benefits of the union but they don’t want to help you.

    People will start thinking of leaving and just work as a country on their own if they’re treated like this.

  • Furbag@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    California secession starting to look real attractive. Why pay for red state welfare when the feds won’t return the favor?

    All I’ll say is that if somebody shows up at my door asking me to sign a petition to get it on a ballot, they’d get my John Hancock.

  • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Pretty sure California sends more funds to the federal government than they receive every year… Would be a shame if they just didn’t do the back and forth and kept their funds to use as they see for instead.

    I’m sure States like Alabama wouldn’t miss that California tax revenue making it’s way to them at all.

    • Jesus@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      Yes, but to do this individual Californians would all have to stop paying federal income taxes.

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        No they would need to pay them into bonds to comply with the Spirit of the law but not the letter of the law. When the federal government represents California again the bonds can be released.

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          Sure, but if individuals don’t pay the IRS, they can do all sort of shit, including garnishing your wages.

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              9 days ago

              Sure, but they can just target businesses with 668 form to garnish wages of employees, and if businesses don’t comply, they can fuck with the businesses ability to conduct national or international business.

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                California has its own ports, national guard and most of the United States naval power for that side of the planet. Again they can try, it’s all well and good to say on paper but once red states light up in unrest because the government tap shuts off things get real unpredictable real fast.

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                  The national guard is the federal reserve military and Trump can override any governor’s whenever. And given that the armed services tend to swing Republican, having them commit mass insubordination seems unlikely.

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    10 days ago

    Isn’t California on its own somewhere in like the top 10 global economies? Aren’t they partially funding a lot of shit in red states? Seems like a lot of leverage to me. If the government won’t help you with disasters like this, is there incentive any longer to keep paying into it? Use the money to fund your own disaster aid and FEMA equivalent instead.

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      It’s the 4th largest economy in the world.

      The economy of the State of California is the largest in the United States, with a $4.080 trillion gross state product (GSP) as of 2024. It is the largest sub-national economy in the world. If California were a nation it would rank in terms of nominal GDP as the List of countries by GDP World’s fourth largest economy, behind Germany (4.71 trillion)

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    Hmmm. Sounds like if California can’t get aid from the federal government, then they will just have to use their own money. I would suggest the comptroller to order all federal tax money in the state sent to Sacramento for use as disaster relief. They can’t prosecute 40 million people not paying taxes.