• absurdity_of_it_all@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    There are a few alternatives in mind for me. Mailbox, posteo, disroot. Disroot is the only one among these with a free email. But posteo and mailbox do have cheap tiers. Posteo doesn’t have support for custom domains last I checked.

    That’s just email. I’ve already not been using proton for almost everything else. KeepassXC for passwords, Addy.io for aliases, Syncthing and offline storage across my 3 devices instead of any Drive. VPN I rarely use so free proton is enough for that. Mullvad exists on the off chance I need it for a while (it’s a constant price per month how many ever months you choose, and you can just “top up” with some amount and it will last you the appropriate number of days).

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    3 days ago

    I highly-valued the cohesion and simplicity of having a suite of tools provided by a single vendor and all on a single bill, despite how often this turns into a vendor-lock-in strategy

    Proton was part of my attempt to de-Google, precisely because it offered email (with custom CNAMEs), calendar, and storage, and because they open-sourced their clients and tools

    Despite the UX and feature set being quite bare, I was okay with justifying this with the added privacy (which was a nice-to-have but not a deal-breaker for me)

    It seems like all the alternatives are either less open-source, have even fewer features, are even less cohesive (indeed, I’d have to select entirely separate solutions and give up all integrations) or seem to have even fewer resources for development and project sustainability

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    3 days ago

    I’d moved from Bitwarden to Proton Pass only 6 months ago, so moving back wasn’t too much of a difficult choice (both services have great import/export and Bitwarden even offers self-hosting)

  • Alas Poor Erinaceus@lemmy.mlOP
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    3 days ago

    I’ve got Keepass for password manager and Mullvad for VPN, and both have worked out really well for me so far. What I haven’t been able to find is a good alternative to Proton Drive. For aliases I use Firefox Relay.

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    3 days ago

    A sociopath libertarian idiot.

    The L part is the kind of person I want in charge of my encrypted data. Telling the government to fuck off because he legitimately can’t comprehend how government is a good thing.

  • fiendishplan@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I still use protonmail since it’s hard to move mail instances after giving so many people my address but I’ve reconsidered my plans to switch to their vpn or paid plans.

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    3 days ago

    I pulled the trigger and decided to leave. Not only because of the recent actions from Proton, but when I started looking for alternatives I quickly realized how deeply integrated I was into their eco system and how difficult it was to make the switch. That’s personally not something I like. I guess this goes back to the saying, ‘Don’t put all your eggs in one basket’.

    I’m now a happy customer of:

    • Mullvad for VPN
    • Bitwarden as password manager
    • Fastmail for email
    • Ente for photos
    • Yet to decide on cloud storage for files.

    I know fastmail isn’t the perfect privacy option but works very well for me. They own all their own hardware and use encryption at rest. They help develop open standards such as Jmap to replace imap. . This, to me says a lot about the people behind the company and is something I appreciate.

    For those looking for a more private email solution then Tuta is a great option too!

    Best of luck out there folks 👍

    • absurdity_of_it_all@lemmy.ml
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      3 days ago

      Unless you’re somehow looking for tonnes of storage, I don’t think you need cloud services. I’ve set up just my 3 devices (phone laptop PC) to sync with each other using Syncthing. And that’s plenty of space for just personal stuff (including photos). And it’s so cheap (only the cost of the devices you’re already using, and no subscriptions). It’s something I wish most people did because of how prevalent Drive has become, even though it doesn’t seem like it’s necessary for a lot of use cases. You’re situation might be different though, just a suggestion.

  • JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I haven’t left, but now it’s something that’s on the cards, which wasn’t the case beforehand.

    I only recently linked my domain to my ProtonMail account, so if I do switch it should be relatively painless given I’ll transfer the domain too, and the original PM address has become more of a lost cause anyway due to spam.

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    3 days ago

    No. Because for some stupid reason, my bank will only accept a proton mail address.

  • LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 days ago

    I’m working on getting off it, planning to self host. It’s unfortunate, because I was all in and working to degoogle, so it’s all a mess right now

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    3 days ago

    I still like and trust Proton and won’t be switching. They’ve built up enough good will. Hopefully they don’t keep burning through it though. I’m still sour over the lack of feature parity, linux support, reliance on Google for notifications, etc.

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    3 days ago

    I’m backing stuff up and waiting to see how this plays out until March before deciding. The only reason I didn’t immediately quit is because it’s just one board member and he’s not American, so I’m leaving towards him not understanding how bad things were getting. It was also before the Musk Nazi salute so he gets that tiny benefit of the doubt. Still, it was insanely dumb what he did, and did erode a lot of trust in Proton.

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    3 days ago

    I was never on Proton. Back when I decided to degoogle my digital life I landed on a short list between proton and tutamail. So I deep dive into both. When I researched Proton it stank of corporate technobro culture. The crypto wallet, trying to be an everything platform/brand, style over functionality programming, the communications. It all reeked of corpo bs.

    Their only pro was operating from Swiss legal protections. So I landed on Tuta. Not because they were any particularly better, but because they were focused on doing one thing and one thing only at a time. They were also more focused on features over marketing buzzwords which I liked.

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      3 days ago

      Yup, addy.io is amazing. Used to selfhost it but the price is so low it’s not worth the hassle. I have a domain at addy.io and a second at a normal hoster. If I’m not happy I can easily transfer the mails and change mx records to a new location.