Ironically, IBM also does a lot of business with the Israeli military.

Until proven otherwise assume every United States Corporation supports the Likud Government and their genocidal aspirations in one way or another, especially US Tech and Military Corporations.

Cowardly slinking away into the shadows is par for the course.

Offer a real conversation to others instead of being combative and maybe you will have better results with people in the future.

The whole pro company schtick is getting old.

I never once stated I was “pro company”. Another tip, free of charge, don’t put words in peoples mouths. Makes your already faulty argument moot.

Is everyone free not to use them?

Yes.

Can people afford to make another choice while at the same time being forced to use laptops?

No one is forced to use a laptop. Libraries exist with free internet access and computer.

Is the type of monitoring reasonable and proportional?

Yes. If you do not think it is I can only assume you weren’t a child when the internet became a thing. I was “monitored” on school computers in the 90’s and this is no different.

Now are you actually going to participate in good faith or should I simply block you?

Yes it is an explanation why.

Your question: Why is/should this be acceptable.

My answer: These are school issued machines, and like all machines issued by a 3rd party for use under their supervision, they come with monitoring software.

It is acceptable because it is the schools property and they can do as they wish with it. Everyone else is free to not use those machines.

This is not a hard thing to grasp.

But since you are just being combative we are done here.

Either way, the use of this invasive software is required in order to attend public school.

Show me where this is stated in the article.

Good thing poor people have access to public libraries. I know from experience.

No you did not. You just stated that this was the case. I’m asking why that is/should be acceptable.

These are school issued machines, and like all machines issued by a 3rd party for use under their supervision, they come with monitoring software.

Clear as day. Glad we cleared this up.

Good thing for home computers, smart devices, and libraries eh?

“was clearly a long time ago” is how that sentence should’ve ended.

Source something that proves a single thing you have said or jog on.

No, they don’t. I am sure the majority have a computer or smart phone at home, and if not libraries exist for a reason.

I understand the difference between a laptop and PC thanks.

Now imagine if, and hear me out, one didn’t bring school hardware home so some “creepy IT administrator” doesn’t have access.

“Save the kids” arguments always fall flat on the face when the solution is as simple as leaving school devices at school.

Either way, the use of this invasive software is required in order to attend public school.

Oh? Who is forcing the use of school issued equipment?

Last time I checked one did not need a school issued device to attend a public school. In fact I would go out on a limb and say the majority are too underfunded to give every student a device in the first place.

School is the counterparty and a state actor with everything that entails sign a poorly negotiated, likely corruption ridden contract with some trust me bro we don’t sell data, vendor, ie third party.

What could be gained by monitoring someones school activity that is not already bought and sold by social media companies that the majority use excessively and daily?

Now your child is subject to a contract arrangement that you are not privy too that enables some “dudes” to track your child’s usage of equipment.

Don’t use third party hardware if you are worried about being monitored.

If you don’t see this as an overeach, society has really degraded esp in context of the child abuse issues we are coming grips with.

If you could make a real argument that isn’t a personal attack or logical fallacy that would be great.

I agree that this is no different, and has the same solution: Don’t use the schools computers for things that aren’t for school and you won’t have no problems.

The difference between schools installing the programs on their own hardware and installing them on personal devices is stark and I cannot take any argument seriously that ignores this.

I read the article and it is not in any way convincing.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

Can you explain to me how a 3rd party putting monitoring software on their own hardware is an over reach?

That is 100% a different issue.

I already made that clear in my original comment.

…on students’ school-issued machines and accounts.

These are school issued machines, and like all machines issued by a 3rd party for use under their supervision, they come with monitoring software.

This isn’t some dystopian issue, and frankly, students should not be using school issued machines for private chats or photo storage, and should absolutely have their search history monitored while using said devices.

Easy, just compare the amount of pollution required to make a battery and a solar panel with the amount of pollution required to extract and burn fossil fuels for the equivalent power output over the duration of the renewable’s working lifetime.

If it is so easy I am waiting.