https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/06/opinion/joe-biden-2020-nytimes-endorsement.html
Why wouldn’t Daily Beast check first before reporting he said this?
He didn’t get endorsed in the primary, but did in the general.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/06/opinion/joe-biden-2020-nytimes-endorsement.html
Why wouldn’t Daily Beast check first before reporting he said this?
He didn’t get endorsed in the primary, but did in the general.
Because he obviously won’t.
Exactly.
No one is talking about trump doing the selfless thing, because it’s not going to happen.
But Biden is supposed to be better than trump.
And unlike trump, Biden isn’t facing prison if he doesn’t personally win. He’s just trying to stop trump, but so are lots of other people. So shouldn’t we let the person with the best chances go?
Like, if you had a game winning free throw, and any player can take it, are you putting Shaq up there or Michael Jordan?
Like, Rudy is a great movie, and America loves to root for the underdog. But you don’t put him in on the last play of the Super Bowl.
You put your best players in. And Biden and his team in the DNC are obviously not our best people. They can step aside now, or after they lose and let trump back in the White House.
A lot of them are just voting against Biden…
So yeah, it’s kind of the same.
Both candidates have very loud but small groups of feverant supporters.
Most Americans think they’re voting for the lesser of two evils. They just disagree on who’s worse.
I saw a poll a month or two ago where no matter which one won, about 2/3s of the country will be unhappy about it. Not sure how much it’s changed since.
high quality polling data
What does that have to do with Data for Progress?
Even before they sold out, the whole point was cheap and fast, not high quality…
The time to challenge Biden was before he won every primary with like 80% of the vote.
Tell that to New Hampshire.
Quick edit:
Oh, you’re the one that posted the poll…
While I have you, why are you using Data for Progress after the 2022 election?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_McElwee#Data_for_Progress
When you’re being invaded.
Yeah, be cautious of anyone that sources polls with screenshots and not links.
I looked into Data for Progress, and it seems like they sold out last election.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/12/us/politics/data-for-progress-democrats.html
Party establishment started favoring them because they were good at coming up with polls that led to donations. So they’ve moved away from pushing for progress, and now push polls that defend the establishment.
A few years ago the founder was forced out of the company because it came to light he was betting on elections and using the company to try and effect the races so he’d win his bets…
And trying to recruit his employees for a straw donor scheme…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_McElwee#Data_for_Progress
So them putting out a shady poll like this, is actually an improvement for the company over what they were doing in 2022…
Lol, this guy thinks primaries are fair…
I mean, that’s all pro-Israel moderates…
I mean, they’d be pretty much like real chickens.
Chicken rules are just prison rules.
You pick the biggest one, and punt it across the yard. Then it attacks the second biggest one and you’re done.
If you let one of them attack you first, then the rest are going to want to see how they measure up.
It looks stupid but is insanely effective.
The bobs helps pick out movement, once they pick out prey, they have laser focus and stop bobbing.
If you don’t think they’re similar, watch a video of a chicken hunting a mouse. It could be a scene out of a very low budget Jurassic Park.
But more people want to vote against trump than want to vote Biden.
And everyone voting Biden wants to vote against Trump.
Logically, to get the most votes, wed run a better candidate than Biden to maximize odds of stopping trump…
Like, you get that right?
Biden and the DNC is asking tens of millions of voters to vote for someone they don’t want because stopping trump is so important. But refuse to step aside to help stop trump.
That’s not us working together to stop trump.
It’s Biden and the DNC holding the entire country hostage with the threat of trump if we don’t elect someone we don’t want.
Which just hurts Biden’s chances of stopping trump even more, and shows that even if he wins, he’s just going to do whatever the fuck he wants like continue to violate US and international law. Which is why:
But more people want to vote against trump than want to vote Biden.
If Biden really cared most about stopping Trump, he’d fucking retire.
He should.
But if the only defense of Biden is trump is worse, that’s still not a reason to not replace Biden with someone better.
Hell, it’s a reason to replace Biden.
trump is a major threat to American democracy. We should be running a capable and charismatic candidate against him to maximize the chances of stopping him.
Like, if you’re lost at sea, and had the choice of a life raft with radio beacon and supplies to last a month or one of those unicorn ring floats…
Sure. We’d all take the unicorn floaty over nothing, but you’d be insane to insist on it over the raft because there’s a shark in the water.
Mr. Biden has said that he is the candidate with the best chance of taking on this threat of tyranny and defeating it. His argument rests largely on the fact that he beat Mr. Trump in 2020. That is no longer a sufficient rationale for why Mr. Biden should be the Democratic nominee this year.
At Thursday’s debate, the president needed to convince the American public that he was equal to the formidable demands of the office he is seeking to hold for another term. Voters, however, cannot be expected to ignore what was instead plain to see: Mr. Biden is not the man he was four years ago.
The president appeared on Thursday night as the shadow of a great public servant. He struggled to explain what he would accomplish in a second term. He struggled to respond to Mr. Trump’s provocations. He struggled to hold Mr. Trump accountable for his lies, his failures and his chilling plans. More than once, he struggled to make it to the end of a sentence.
This isn’t just one person’s opinion, it’s coming from the Times editorial board.
And while I don’t often agree with them, it’s telling that such a “moderate” organization is saying Biden needs to step aside.
But I’m sure people are going to call them trump supporters now.
Until that happens we’re going to keep dealing with this bullshit.
Bruh…
The current DNC is not going to support RCV. Some state parties might, but the DNC is run by moderates who know most of their votes are because literally the only other option is a Republican.
To get rcv, we need to get a progressive president who will actually try to fix the DNC.
Obama wasn’t perfect, and he made a lot of mistakes.
But the one that keeps fucking us over is instead of fixing the DNC when he had a shot, he just ignored them because they just ignored him in 08.
If Obama had tried to fix the DNC, Bernie would have won in 2016, would be exiting his second term, and likely handing the torch to president AOC.
trump would still be known as a shitty reality TV host, and we’d all be better off.
At this point tho, the DNC may be beyond saving.
I don’t understand this chain of logic why we need to keep Biden:
Biden isn’t the best candidate.
Only Biden can drop (false)
Biden will never make the adult decision to retire.
We have to plow forward with Biden because he’ll never change his mind on anything.
Like, the argument for why Biden has to stay, is just reasons he shouldn’t stay…
And it’s not just up to him. It’s up to the DNC.
We are not stuck with Biden.
Biden and the DNC just know that’s the only way people will vote for him, so they’ve been reporting it for like 5 years now.
Samples size of a focus group on Univision…
It did quote a poll that Biden is only up 1% among Latino voters tho
Fucking insane that it’s that close. But I guess when Biden literally copies trump illegal border policies, it’s hard to get them scared of trump.
“I know I’m not a young man, to state the obvious,” the 81-year-old Biden said Friday. “I don’t walk as easy as I used to. I don’t speak as smoothly. I don’t debate as well as I used to. But I know what I do know. I know how to tell the truth. I know right from wrong and I know how to do this job.”
trump didn’t think he was wrong when he was breaking human rights laws on our southern border.
And Biden apparently doesn’t either now that he’s doing it.
My point being the people who do evil shit, usually dont think of themselves as evil.
The problem with Biden, is on issues like Israel where the vast majority of not only his party but the country won’t him him to calm the fuck down. He never will
Because he is absolutely sure his outdated morals are the best, and he’s not listening to anyone that disagrees with him.
So you understand that it’s not too late?
Because this isn’t a thing where opinions come into play.
It’s literally not to late to change candidates. That’s just literal facts.
He was not endorsed in the primary.
He was endorsed in the general in 2020.
Biden didn’t win be a lot by 2020. But he has a habit of telling anyone that doesn’t support him 100% that he doesn’t need them
I thought it was a pretty obvious issue.
Edit:
I mean. He’s responding to criticism he might not be able to win the general, are you saying he was talking about the primary?
Is this just him getting confused again?