Idk if anyone had a similar problem before, but I live in EU by the countryside, at first there were only a few but now it happens more and more often to see drones passing over my house, I am sure they are civilian drones because law enforcement has no reason to use them since the area is quiet (and honestly I doubt they would be able to do so), however it bothers me enough to know that there are people who get over the fence and enter my property going to look at what they want, does anyone have any advice on what to do?

  • Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee
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    Get yourself a little beehive OP.

    Every time you see a drone, report it for killing your bees, sit back and watch the EU busybodies go fuckin mental about it

    The cunt who’s doing it will be in The Hague within a week 😂

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    commercial drones must have by law a remote ID, think of it like a unique number for each drone, so you might want to try using some phone apps like DroneTag to get that ID and then report it to the authorities. They will have a record of who that drone belongs to.

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    there’s a software package floating around to hijack drones and remote control them yourself. it might be time to test the drone’s security capabilities

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    Just to confirm the obvious. Downvotes are expected but OP you should read this.

    They are close enough to see that they are quad copters, and they make a buzzing noise, correct?

    There have been a lot of UAP flaps where the objects (not quad copter looking) will fly low over the countryside, just above the tree-lines to much higher. They usually make no noise aside from reports of static or screeching or electronic interference.

    Unlikely to be the case but if so, report to your countries MUFON type department and get as much evidence (video with sound, drawings, time and date, etc) as you can.

    There is something else out there, whether it’s military black projects mapping areas or what have you, and it needs to be documented.

    If it is for sure quad copter drones, you can get a device to blast the 2.4Ghz spectrum for a short time and make them ‘phone home’ and the operators will stop flying them over your property once they realize something wrong keeps happening when they do. Legality varies.

    Many tutorials available to DIY. You can also buy them pre-built, just more expensive.

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    I’m somewhat surprised that there’s no purchasable solution to this problem as all of the technology to make a short range drone interdiction system already exist. To detect one all that’s necessary is an appropriate camera setup and a system hooked to it capable of recognizing them, both of which are already prevalent in the market. Add an inexpensive laser range finder so the system can know if the drone is truly over your property and at an altitude acceptable for interception.

    Once that’s done it becomes a matter of how to interdict the drone. One relatively safe option would be for the system to deploy a high speed short range interdiction drone to overfly the other drone and drop something on top of it meant to snarl its rotors, for instance fishing line with weights.

    None of that is necessarily easy but its certainly doable.

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      EMP systems usually are heavily regulated for a very, very good handful of reasons.

      I just shoot them with a pellet gun.

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      anduril (creepy military defense company from right wing tech bro) has made this, I’m sure its absurdly expensive though, and I don’t think they sell to random people.

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      I’m somewhat surprised that there’s no purchasable solution to this problem as

      There is, you just don’t have access for very good reasons.

      Hell, I own shares in Droneshield (DRO.AX) for example.

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    Drone pilot from Germany here, they have no place hovering over your property, more strictly even they’re not allowed to fly in any way that allows them to view your garden from above. You can shoot down the drone and it’s their problem note that this is in Germany not the US (which surprised me tbh).

    However, that said, could be that it’s the same pilot again and again, even if it’s different birds. Normally they are very cooperative, just ask them to stop and they’ll apologize for any inconvenience caused.

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      Since op didn’t mention seeing a pilot, I’d suspect that the drones are flown out of sight. So asking them to stop can be difficult. Of course asking nicely, by downing a drone, might get the message across.

      I wonder if I could shoot down drones here in Denmark as well.

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        Flying out of sight only underlines the illegality of the act. In Germany you need to keep relatively near to your drone and technically need to be able to fly by sight only (so can’t stand in a building/car and then not see your drone).

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          Same in DK, and my comment was meant to underline that. If you see a drone and no operator is around, then something is definitely wrong.

          I mean, years ago, I had a DJI Phantom 2 Vision+ drift away, on account of my own inexperience and stupidity. This was right when it had just come out, and way before drone licenses and laws forbidding drone flights in populated areas. So no laws were broken; and it was done with no malicious intent… But these days?

          Not even the DK police, who have some very well-trained drone operators, can fly their drones out of sight.

          Seeing a drone with no operator once? Something might have gone wrong, let’s not jusødge too harshly, but seeing a drone with no operator regularly? On your property? If you have a hunting permit, a shotgun, and a clear shot, then it might be a good time to practice your anti air skills.

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      FAA Certified drone pilot in the USA here. That’s wild. In the US it’s illegal to shoot down an aircraft of any sort no matter the type or who is flying it. And also, the Federal Aviation Administration is the only authority in the US when it comes to airspace, and as long as you have authorization from the FAA or are in uncontrolled space, you can fly over anyone’s property. However, that doesn’t give you the right to voyeurism or harassment. If you are intentionally spying on things that are normally considered private (peeking in a window, for instance) or repeatedly or specifically bugging a specific individual or family, then you can still be charged with those crimes. Also, unless you have a specific waiver that’s rather hard to get, you have to be within line of sight of your drone. If the drone pilot is not following the rules, they can be hit with hefty fines. Even though drones can be bought easily, there’s still strict rules that the FAA has for both recreational and professional flying, and anyone operating a drone outside those can and should be reported.

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        Honestly they should get a good video of the drone and report it. If the police do nothing sent it to the community

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        FAA Certified drone pilot in the USA here. That’s wild. In the US it’s illegal to shoot down an aircraft of any sort

        That’s even wilder to me, since you have several states where you are allowed to shoot anyone trespassing on your property, but a drone, who can record and video and infringe on your privacy is illegal?!

        That’s like prime capitalism. Human lives are worthless, but don’t damage my property. What?

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      Jesus F Christ, what???/some random bullets.flying through the air ? Some kid a few blocks over shot whikie playing in the yard, thats ok, was shooting at some asshats drone but missed?

      Juat moon the drone and be done with it, like a sane person

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    Just looked it up for Germany: over residential areas you need either “an explicit permission of the owner”, or “it is very light (<250g) and has no ability to record video, audio or radio” or “it is more then 100m above ground, not in the night and some other fingerprint” [1].

    In all EU you actually need a registration on your some clearly visible [2].

    So, of they are below 100m or in the night, just call the authorities. If you live a bit outside it might just not clear from above that it’s private property.

    [1] https://dipul.de/homepage/en/information/geographical-zones/legal-basis/#accordion-1-6 [2] https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/light/topics/travelling-drones

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    I think you have the legal right to prohibit flying above your property. Do it, make a sign and report everyone who violates it to the police. Flying on someone’s property with a camera drone is illegal anyways

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      Honest question, but I couldn’t help but package it sarcastically:

      How would you report that? Catch the drone and ask who it’s owner is? Ask the police to do a 100 man wide area search around your house?

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        New drones being sold in the USA are equipped with something called remote ID. In theory, it enables law enforcement to wirelessly identity the drone, who it’s registered with, and where the pilot is standing. This is very new though, and very few, if any, police departments have the tools needed to make use of it. It’s also possible to read remote ID from phones, but without the database, it only gives you so much info. Owners of older drones are supposed to attach a remote ID module to them in order to maintain legal flying, but someone being voyeuristic with their older drone probably isn’t following the rules.

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      That’s incorrect. At least as a generalization. For example: In The Netherlands, you do not own the airspace above your property. The EU laws for drones do state that you can’t just film people without permission, though. Operators of camera drones also need to register and get an operator id.

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        Hmm it isn’t the first reply that says it so I guess airspace isn’t owned by the property owner in the EU. Very unfortunate but not that big of a deal. I hope at least shooting down a camera drone can be considered self defense there.

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      EDIT: Also check if you legally can physically eliminate the drone in that case. It’s the most effective strategy.

      Just tell the police you were clay pigeon shooting and the drone flew into your path.

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      OP is in EU, but here in the US property owners do not have rights to airspace.

      However, spying with cameras or nuisance noise would be reasons for legal action.

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        In the US, you own the airspace up to the highest point of your property, including structures (and maybe trees). You also technically own your underground property to the center of the earth, but you may not have mineral rights to it.

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          Not in the US. You can report it to the police and the FAA, but it’s a federal felony offense to shoot down any aircraft, regardless of whether it’s a $100 drone or multi-million dollar full on airplane. But like the other poster said, voyeurism and harassment laws still apply. And also, if the pilot is out of sight of the drone, that’s a hefty FAA violation (assuming they don’t have a specific FAA waiver that’s hard to get) and something you can report.